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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5093858" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Go read the powers before making such snide remarks. Or do your players not use the powers to their advantage and stand there and get smacked? There are 435 powers that allow the PC to shift, or minimize or penalize enemy shifting in the Compendium. 48 of these are first level powers. Most ranged classes have a way to acquire this. This does not even take into account items.</p><p></p><p>There are even racial powers like Gensai who can do it.</p><p></p><p>Add to this list Teleport which is all over the place.</p><p></p><p>OA avoidance is all over the place in 4E for PCs. Monsters, on the other hand, have little of it other than shift and taking the long way around defenders.</p><p></p><p>The only significant OA avoidance that occurred in 3E that is mostly lacking in 4E is flight and invisibility. But with the addition of longer range shifts and teleports, there are fewer opportunities for OA in 4E than in 3E. OA is mostly a non-entity in 4E for PCs. I rarely see a player take an OA. I occasionally see a player give an OA.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5093858, member: 2011"] Go read the powers before making such snide remarks. Or do your players not use the powers to their advantage and stand there and get smacked? There are 435 powers that allow the PC to shift, or minimize or penalize enemy shifting in the Compendium. 48 of these are first level powers. Most ranged classes have a way to acquire this. This does not even take into account items. There are even racial powers like Gensai who can do it. Add to this list Teleport which is all over the place. OA avoidance is all over the place in 4E for PCs. Monsters, on the other hand, have little of it other than shift and taking the long way around defenders. The only significant OA avoidance that occurred in 3E that is mostly lacking in 4E is flight and invisibility. But with the addition of longer range shifts and teleports, there are fewer opportunities for OA in 4E than in 3E. OA is mostly a non-entity in 4E for PCs. I rarely see a player take an OA. I occasionally see a player give an OA. [/QUOTE]
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