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<blockquote data-quote="Ysgarran" data-source="post: 2264000" data-attributes="member: 709"><p>I do like 'C' as a first language. It isn't that you will find that many jobs out there that are still using it (outside of the embedded world at least). It is that it gives you a very good foundation for just about any language you want to learn after that. I've come across a number of developers who first language was Java who have trouble with the underpinnings of the language, i.e., just what is happening with Garbage Collection (how java handles memory), what it means when you have static reference to an object, what it means to pass by value versus pass by reference. etc. etc. Staring off with 'C' helps with those fundamentals.</p><p></p><p>On the flipside, with something like 'Java' or python it is a bit easier to come up with something were you can get some quicker feedback that you are actually doing something.</p><p></p><p>Good writing skills, good verbals skills and good communication skills will always be very important. One problem area that software projects will always have is how to take what the customer wants and translate that into a working software program. Just yesterday I took the 'final' version over the customer and was told, 'oh we forgot to mention this'. (XP and quick iterations is a different riff, but one way to handle problems like this).</p><p></p><p>I have to say it will be a bit hard to say exactly where things will be 6-8 years from now in the programming world. The offshoring concern is real but a bit overblown (at least for the moment). Companies love the cost savings but they are concerned about losing IP and that is slowing down just how fast things are moving overseas.</p><p></p><p>more to say but I have to get back to work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ysgarran, post: 2264000, member: 709"] I do like 'C' as a first language. It isn't that you will find that many jobs out there that are still using it (outside of the embedded world at least). It is that it gives you a very good foundation for just about any language you want to learn after that. I've come across a number of developers who first language was Java who have trouble with the underpinnings of the language, i.e., just what is happening with Garbage Collection (how java handles memory), what it means when you have static reference to an object, what it means to pass by value versus pass by reference. etc. etc. Staring off with 'C' helps with those fundamentals. On the flipside, with something like 'Java' or python it is a bit easier to come up with something were you can get some quicker feedback that you are actually doing something. Good writing skills, good verbals skills and good communication skills will always be very important. One problem area that software projects will always have is how to take what the customer wants and translate that into a working software program. Just yesterday I took the 'final' version over the customer and was told, 'oh we forgot to mention this'. (XP and quick iterations is a different riff, but one way to handle problems like this). I have to say it will be a bit hard to say exactly where things will be 6-8 years from now in the programming world. The offshoring concern is real but a bit overblown (at least for the moment). Companies love the cost savings but they are concerned about losing IP and that is slowing down just how fast things are moving overseas. more to say but I have to get back to work. [/QUOTE]
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