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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The_Universe" data-source="post: 2180084" data-attributes="member: 8944">If I recall correctly, that would put it right at the size and armament for a regular frigate - the Constitution was very heavily armed for her classification, which meant that the British (and French, however briefly) ordered their captains not to commit frigates against ours, since we outgunned them. I have a copy of the text of one of the Birtish orders (demanding that commodore's commti nothing less than a ship of the line in battle) in my thesis, somewhere.  Which is just a long way of saying that the Constitution and her sisters were actually Super - Frigates, if such a classification can be said to exist.I don't know - is it slavery?  Is summoning an elmental or a monster extraplanar kidnapping?  Do elementals count as free beings? Do they have minds and feelings, or do humanoids just project them onto the pseudo-creatures?  Is it OK to summon them to fight in a war at your whim?  Is it extraplanar theft every time a gatway is opened to the elemental plane of water, and fresh water flows from it?It's up to you to split the philosophical hairs - people summon elementals. Some have even been bound for so long that they've remained here for thousands of years (like the ones you fought in Khaz Barok).  Do you think it's apropriate? Perhaps more importantly, can you think of a better way to propel a boat that doesn't require the sudden and unlikely discovery of steam power (which would undoubtedly be cheaper than magical elemental binding, anyway)?</blockquote>

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