Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 7913542" data-attributes="member: 6779310">No, it can be there. I've experienced it both as player and as GM...But it requires...<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">A GM willing to work with the hooks the player provides</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">multiple players invested in it</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">players willing to let other players have story moments.</li>
</ul>I've experienced it as a player, but only very rarely. Then again, I only play rarely.I've experienced it most often in Ars Magica - 90% of the adventures were triggered by needing elements for player determined goals. The other 10% were added as &quot;something big is happening&quot;... but who responded was entirely player determined.I've run Traveller games where everything was either player chosen or random rolled. Even the patron encounters were randomly selected from 76 Patrons. The players were free to explore the setting, or work on player determined elements, and because I backported TNE's Contacts to MT, the ability to add backstory people to the current fiction.the thing is, if I hadn't been willing to let them define their contacts... or go with their setting decisions, or player set group goal, it wouldn't have worked.Burning Wheel is better suited, but again, if the GM isn't on board, it's going to fail.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 7913542, member: 6779310"] No, it can be there. I've experienced it both as player and as GM... But it requires... [LIST] [*]A GM willing to work with the hooks the player provides [*]multiple players invested in it [*]players willing to let other players have story moments. [/LIST] I've experienced it as a player, but only very rarely. Then again, I only play rarely. I've experienced it most often in Ars Magica - 90% of the adventures were triggered by needing elements for player determined goals. The other 10% were added as "something big is happening"... but who responded was entirely player determined. I've run Traveller games where everything was either player chosen or random rolled. Even the patron encounters were randomly selected from 76 Patrons. The players were free to explore the setting, or work on player determined elements, and because I backported TNE's Contacts to MT, the ability to add backstory people to the current fiction. the thing is, if I hadn't been willing to let them define their contacts... or go with their setting decisions, or player set group goal, it wouldn't have worked. Burning Wheel is better suited, but again, if the GM isn't on board, it's going to fail. [/QUOTE]

Verification