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<blockquote data-quote="chaochou" data-source="post: 7913998" data-attributes="member: 99817">I tend to agree, although I don't think those games will automatically produce the richness of change and realisation the OP is alluding to... that takes good players.I've been through a similar arc to the OP, and it took a long time to get my friends out of banale power fantasy land, with its cartoon combat and safe reliable magic, and back into the headspace of real people. And by a long time, I mean a number of games - maybe eight or nine.If I was doing it again, I'd start with several one-shots - character change of the type in the OP can be realised in a single session very powerfully, and more safely from a player point of view. And I'd look for games which absolutely want that as a central tenet of play. Personally I'd go for Sorcerer (Adept Press) which is entirely about a character (or characters) each facing their own moment of crisis and how they change while dealing with it.When the group is able to play Sorcerer well as a one-shot or over three or four sessions to create a satisfying set of interlinked character arcs - then I think Dogs and Blades are great suggestions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="chaochou, post: 7913998, member: 99817"] I tend to agree, although I don't think those games will automatically produce the richness of change and realisation the OP is alluding to... that takes good players. I've been through a similar arc to the OP, and it took a long time to get my friends out of banale power fantasy land, with its cartoon combat and safe reliable magic, and back into the headspace of real people. And by a long time, I mean a number of games - maybe eight or nine. If I was doing it again, I'd start with several one-shots - character change of the type in the OP can be realised in a single session very powerfully, and more safely from a player point of view. And I'd look for games which absolutely want that as a central tenet of play. Personally I'd go for Sorcerer (Adept Press) which is entirely about a character (or characters) each facing their own moment of crisis and how they change while dealing with it. When the group is able to play Sorcerer [I]well[/I] as a one-shot or over three or four sessions to create a satisfying set of interlinked character arcs - then I think Dogs and Blades are great suggestions. [/QUOTE]

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