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Message: <blockquote data-quote="insanogeddon" data-source="post: 4702955" data-attributes="member: 82822">Not sure what combo build will be the most fun.Some love beguilers, all dislike ther lack of bang sooner or later.  I think if you steal the rogues role, and the bards, you may as well steal the rangers and the war mages as well.  I think this works:Dragon Magic, Races of Dragon.Human Begiler B. Dragon Touched ('select draconic feats as if sorcerer of caster level', bonuses to search dont hurt either), 1. Track, 3. Draconic Heritage (I prefer bronze for a new skill..survival.. I like electricity ..its precision death with sparkles.. and lets face it bronze dragons would beget beguilers), 6. Draconic Breath.Traps, Tracking, Beguiling, Undead and Construct Blasting without SR worries.Appart from Spell Pen not sure what to add tho Draconic Senses adds search bonuses and low light and dark vision and there is a fear aura one, some bonus spells known to be legitamately picked up with another or my fav. draconic vigour to heal on the go tho its a little under whelming.think it stacks up pretty well to the running favorite for the next campaign: Rogue 2/Cleric 3 (Travel/Magic)/Shadow Bane Stalker 10 B. Able Learner, 1. Jack of all trades, 3. Dragon Fire Channeling for arcane, divine, sneak attack, wombating (diving favour) or the themantically awesome spell thief/ur-priest I am yet to work out a viable build for. Comments?  Ideas?</blockquote>