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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haffrung Helleyes" data-source="post: 4004997" data-attributes="member: 1068">I agree with you that the Beguiler high level spell selection is lacking.  You have to mitigate that with their Expanded Knowledge ability, and hopefully with Prestige Classes.The Fiend Blooded prestige class I mentioned earlier will allow a Beguiler to add 5 spells to his class list from the Necromancy school or with the [Fire] descriptor, without sacrificing Beguiler spellcasting progression at all.  All of these spells can be 4th level or higher, and can be from any spellcaster's list -- you could even add druid or cleric spells if you chose.  If you take this path, I believe that you will maintain your flexibility advantage vs a specialist wizard, and as a practical matter you will be able to match him in power -- using all of your slots for damage spells when needed, while having the entire beguiler list available as needed.The focused specialist does look like it would outpower a beguiler, but what a cost in flexibility -- he has to give up 3 schools.  I suppose I would give up Evocation, Necromancy, and Enchantment, and make a Specialist Conjurer, since Conjuration is the school with by far the broadest scope.  3/4 of the spells he casts per day will have to be conjuration.  The beguiler on the other hand can choose freely from all the spells on his list.Ken</blockquote>