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<blockquote data-quote="afata5" data-source="post: 3028096" data-attributes="member: 37630">I think that part rogue is a good way to go aswell...actually, upon reading the description of the Beguiler, it mentions that it seems that way.&nbsp; But upon looking at the rogue's abilities i noticed that it will pretty much just give me a sneak attack.&nbsp; But it takes 4 levels to get to second level castings so i find 1 whole level is expensive to pay for only a 1d6 attack.As per the Extra Silence feat, definetly, especially with the silent spell feat.&nbsp; Definetally something interesting <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But i'm confused as to what to do.&nbsp; Since its only a 25 point buy system that we are using, the points are worth alot <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; Obviously i need a high int.&nbsp; A good cha is also needed for the bluff checks.&nbsp; But then again, i get a -2 to strenght, and since i will have to get into melee to use certain traights of the beguiler i fear that I am going ot have to invest more in strenght.This is what I thought of doing for the points:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Normal&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Racial ModsStr&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 7Dex&nbsp; &nbsp; 12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 14Con&nbsp; &nbsp; 12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 14Int&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 16&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 16Wis&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 9Cha&nbsp; &nbsp; 13&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 11What do you guys think?&nbsp; Thanks,Al</blockquote>

[QUOTE="afata5, post: 3028096, member: 37630"] I think that part rogue is a good way to go aswell...actually, upon reading the description of the Beguiler, it mentions that it seems that way. But upon looking at the rogue's abilities i noticed that it will pretty much just give me a sneak attack. But it takes 4 levels to get to second level castings so i find 1 whole level is expensive to pay for only a 1d6 attack. As per the Extra Silence feat, definetly, especially with the silent spell feat. Definetally something interesting :) But i'm confused as to what to do. Since its only a 25 point buy system that we are using, the points are worth alot :) Obviously i need a high int. A good cha is also needed for the bluff checks. But then again, i get a -2 to strenght, and since i will have to get into melee to use certain traights of the beguiler i fear that I am going ot have to invest more in strenght. This is what I thought of doing for the points: Normal Racial Mods Str 9 7 Dex 12 14 Con 12 14 Int 16 16 Wis 9 9 Cha 13 11 What do you guys think? Thanks, Al [/QUOTE]

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