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<blockquote data-quote="satori01" data-source="post: 2855219" data-attributes="member: 7859"><p>No, it becomes like a legal case where you see if there is pre exsitant </p><p>rulings that can be used as precedent. In this case we can use the Dread Necromancer as an example. The Advanced Learning Feature of the Dread Necromancer lets the character chose any Necromancy school spell from either the Cleric of Wizard spell list, and use the lowest level of the spell as the spell level.</p><p></p><p>Thus if you think Extra Spell is equal in power to Advanced Learning go with the lower spell level. If you think it is lessor in power go with the higher spell level. As a rule of thumb I would also say full casters should be assigned spell levels from full caster classes, and half casters from half caster spell list. One should actively discourage someone from using the feat to say learn Animal Growth as a 4th level Ranger spell, when it is a 5th level full caster spell. The problem you described in your post btw already applies to the Archivist class in Heroes of Horror, who as written could learn the 4th level Ranger version of Animal Growth.</p><p></p><p>An intresting aside, the Fiendish Sorcery ability of the Fiend -Blooded PrC in Hereos of Horror is an ability that at first glance appears to be similiar to the Advanced Learning ability of a Dread Necromancer. Howerer in the class description it only explicity mentions the spell being added to your spells known list.</p><p>So according to what Thanee and Hyp have been advocating, with this ability if you were to chose say Speak with Dead, and were a sorcerer before taking the class you could not actually cast the spell, which kinda defeats the purpose of the ability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="satori01, post: 2855219, member: 7859"] No, it becomes like a legal case where you see if there is pre exsitant rulings that can be used as precedent. In this case we can use the Dread Necromancer as an example. The Advanced Learning Feature of the Dread Necromancer lets the character chose any Necromancy school spell from either the Cleric of Wizard spell list, and use the lowest level of the spell as the spell level. Thus if you think Extra Spell is equal in power to Advanced Learning go with the lower spell level. If you think it is lessor in power go with the higher spell level. As a rule of thumb I would also say full casters should be assigned spell levels from full caster classes, and half casters from half caster spell list. One should actively discourage someone from using the feat to say learn Animal Growth as a 4th level Ranger spell, when it is a 5th level full caster spell. The problem you described in your post btw already applies to the Archivist class in Heroes of Horror, who as written could learn the 4th level Ranger version of Animal Growth. An intresting aside, the Fiendish Sorcery ability of the Fiend -Blooded PrC in Hereos of Horror is an ability that at first glance appears to be similiar to the Advanced Learning ability of a Dread Necromancer. Howerer in the class description it only explicity mentions the spell being added to your spells known list. So according to what Thanee and Hyp have been advocating, with this ability if you were to chose say Speak with Dead, and were a sorcerer before taking the class you could not actually cast the spell, which kinda defeats the purpose of the ability. [/QUOTE]
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