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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2097987" data-attributes="member: 29014">You handwaved it away.&nbsp; It is nontrivial to get the friend out of a Forcecage.&nbsp; If you do not have the spell Disintegrate prepared, at level 13, your only recourse is spending two transportation spells to go into the cage, grab the fighter, and go out.&nbsp; Also, there *are* epic monsters that you can trap in a Forcecage, and any psion can easily escape the Cocoon (all powers are purely mental).Oh please.&nbsp; Then your Level 13 melee-guys are wimps, no offense.&nbsp; He's not going to miss the cocoon, so he nearly breaks the thing with Power Attack alone.&nbsp; A level 13 fighter with 13 Strength who has a 2-handed weapon with base damage of 1 (yes 1, not 1dx) automatically breaks it.&nbsp; If they are all in his reach, the fighter can free the entire party with one Whirlwind Attack, no matter how many members were caught.As an aside: saving more than half the time is pretty reliable compared to saving never.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 2097987, member: 29014"] You handwaved it away. It is nontrivial to get the friend out of a Forcecage. If you do not have the spell Disintegrate prepared, at level 13, your only recourse is spending [I]two[/I] transportation spells to go into the cage, grab the fighter, and go out. Also, there *are* epic monsters that you can trap in a Forcecage, and any psion can easily escape the Cocoon (all powers are purely mental). Oh please. Then your Level 13 melee-guys are wimps, no offense. He's not going to miss the cocoon, so he nearly breaks the thing with Power Attack alone. A level 13 fighter with 13 Strength who has a 2-handed weapon with base damage of 1 (yes 1, not 1dx) automatically breaks it. If they are all in his reach, the fighter can free the entire party with one Whirlwind Attack, no matter how many members were caught. As an aside: saving more than half the time is pretty reliable compared to saving never. [/QUOTE]

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