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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ruemere" data-source="post: 5162124" data-attributes="member: 5515">For proposed DCs, check Gorbacz's writeup above.Regarding cumulative penalties:- please don't. If you run encounters with multiple creatures, special conditions will accumulate to the point where GM starts making errors (or fudging stuff).Example:While running Banewarrens, I've had party fight CR14 beholder (insane architect - originally a wizard of great power, the BBEG lost a lot of levels due to strain caused by building a mobile demiplane), who used mirrors to gain tactical advantage.Thanks to Monte Cook's design concept (beams and mirrors), the party were unable to close down on beholder to lay smack on its sorry hide. However the fight dragged on and reinforcements arrived furthering the chaos of the battle. The friendly fire from beholder eye-ray ricochets caused a lot of grief for everyone, yet the bookkeeping was manageable - I would not be probably able to handle your version of the beholder without significant slowdown.Regards,Ruemere</blockquote>