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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2983758" data-attributes="member: 31734"><p>Actually, it's neither ignoring nor bending the rules. The six arcs are specifically labeled 'forward', 'backward', etc. Are they not? (I can see from the next quote you don't agree that they are labeled as such despite your previous quote presumably from the MM.) If so, then mustn't you define such arcs? If not, you can't possibly decide where the rays go.</p><p></p><p>Whatever you do, don't change the terms as given in the MM to support a position contrary to the rules. Don't change them from 'forward' to 'North' and then claim that supports your theory.</p><p></p><p> The rules says that? I looked and looked and could not find the words North, South, East, or West. Can you please cite the rule on beholders where it mentions the cardinal directions?</p><p></p><p>You have me confused, KD. You quote what I thought was the MM (though you don't actually specify what you quoted, it could be Wikipedia for all we know).</p><p></p><p> Which is it? Not much or not at all? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>If not at all, I can't wait to hear how you can define the 'forward' arc for a beholder. Or, how a creature has a minimum 'forward' speed.</p><p></p><p> I'm pretty sure it specifies Good, but not having the book at work I can't double check it. Are you saying it doesn't give the maneuverability for a beholder as Good? To respond to the other comment, obviously Hyp was using a 'minimum forward speed' as another example of a type of facing, not necessarily for the beholder because with a Good maneuverability, he can hover. Pick another creature, say a dragon, with lesser maneuverability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2983758, member: 31734"] Actually, it's neither ignoring nor bending the rules. The six arcs are specifically labeled 'forward', 'backward', etc. Are they not? (I can see from the next quote you don't agree that they are labeled as such despite your previous quote presumably from the MM.) If so, then mustn't you define such arcs? If not, you can't possibly decide where the rays go. Whatever you do, don't change the terms as given in the MM to support a position contrary to the rules. Don't change them from 'forward' to 'North' and then claim that supports your theory. The rules says that? I looked and looked and could not find the words North, South, East, or West. Can you please cite the rule on beholders where it mentions the cardinal directions? You have me confused, KD. You quote what I thought was the MM (though you don't actually specify what you quoted, it could be Wikipedia for all we know). Which is it? Not much or not at all? :) If not at all, I can't wait to hear how you can define the 'forward' arc for a beholder. Or, how a creature has a minimum 'forward' speed. I'm pretty sure it specifies Good, but not having the book at work I can't double check it. Are you saying it doesn't give the maneuverability for a beholder as Good? To respond to the other comment, obviously Hyp was using a 'minimum forward speed' as another example of a type of facing, not necessarily for the beholder because with a Good maneuverability, he can hover. Pick another creature, say a dragon, with lesser maneuverability. [/QUOTE]
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