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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OnlineDM" data-source="post: 5586490" data-attributes="member: 90804">I never said hate. I don't hate power gamers or any other type of gamer. But I'm judgmental toward them, feeling like "they're doing it wrong". And I don't like that feeling in myself.As for where I draw the line, it's completely subjective, of course. If I look at a player's character and it looks like every single decision they've made it solely for maximum combat effectiveness with no regard for anything but that, yep, I'm going to look down on that player (and feel bad about myself for doing so). If they've picked a sub-optimal weapon as a sop to people who look down on power gamers, I'll still probably look down on them. If they do it to match a mini, I'll feel somewhat better, but if the PC is still otherwise totally min-maxed I'll still probably roll my eyes at the player (inwardly).It's a spectrum. My goofball Bard with the stat array of all 13s and one 14 in his ability scores is one end (I guess I could go farther by giving him an 8 Charisma if I really wanted to test the limits of that end of the spectrum, but I don't). The ultimate CharOp board character is the other end. As you get closer to the CharOp end of the spectrum, I'm more likely to be judgmental. And that's what I'd like to change about myself</blockquote>