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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 3812242" data-attributes="member: 5171">No argument there. It depends on the school, but yes, there's a period where you're probably a bit worse off than you'd be if you knew nothing, because you know just enough to get yourself hurt.(In my school, you didn't get the past-white belt until you'd demonstrated an ability to do something beyond freeze when attacked in an unexpected manner. The goal wasn't to get someone to do a letter-perfect technique (although ideally, they do that when specifically requested). The goal was to get someone conditioned to instinctively not freeze up and do nothing when attacked. That said, my school didn't give out past-white belts in the first few months.)The more I hear this, the more I'm convinced that either my school is an aberration (teaching self-defense with some martial arts and not the reverse), or there are just some bad schools out there giving places a bad name. We had entire classes devoted to "knowing at what point it's safe to run (and how you whack until you think you can run, and not past that point)" and "how fast can you get to the point where the gun can't fire at you" and so forth, and the first rule that the teachers emphasized in the dealing-with-guns classes was that the best thing to do was to give them your wallet and run, and how the takeaway techniques were only to be hauled out if you were afraid that they were going to kill you anyway -- they'd ordered you to come with them somewhere, for example.It's certainly going to be better than nothing. The talks on situational awareness I've heard in some self-defense seminars are excellent.</blockquote>

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