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Belt of Ironskin vs. Cloak of resistance
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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4380225" data-attributes="member: 43019"><p>No, it does not. The existence of a shinier, tastier, less calorie, cheaper option that is completely different does not in any way affect the comparison of two completely different things.</p><p></p><p>I can cheerfully say that I like Diet Coke better than Diet Pepsi without someone saying 'Yeah, but you could always get Diet Ginger Ale' <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'm comparing these two items - one clearly better than the other in every way possible, and 3 levels lower, and saying that I dislike that the item system works that way. I also don't like that there are items that give +2 to two skills that are 7th and 8th level, only difference being the skills, or +2 basic damage with melee is 2nd, ranged is 3rd... these choices seem random and arbitrary by and large, rather than a precise plan. I'm okay with fuzzy levels such that you don't have stupidness like 'So, 2000g for True Strike always on, right?' but I still want 'So if I want a +2 diplomacy item, it'll be the same as the +2 perception one, right?'</p><p></p><p>As a total aside: The Cloak of Survival is most likely not going to make an appearance in the games I DM - I don't really like the glut of resistance items and the effect it has on play and certain monsters. I'm okay with the occasional resistance item to one type (amulet of health), but I dislike the ability for an entire party to be kitted out in resist fire or have resistances to 4 energies. That's just me, though. To each their own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keterys, post: 4380225, member: 43019"] No, it does not. The existence of a shinier, tastier, less calorie, cheaper option that is completely different does not in any way affect the comparison of two completely different things. I can cheerfully say that I like Diet Coke better than Diet Pepsi without someone saying 'Yeah, but you could always get Diet Ginger Ale' :) I'm comparing these two items - one clearly better than the other in every way possible, and 3 levels lower, and saying that I dislike that the item system works that way. I also don't like that there are items that give +2 to two skills that are 7th and 8th level, only difference being the skills, or +2 basic damage with melee is 2nd, ranged is 3rd... these choices seem random and arbitrary by and large, rather than a precise plan. I'm okay with fuzzy levels such that you don't have stupidness like 'So, 2000g for True Strike always on, right?' but I still want 'So if I want a +2 diplomacy item, it'll be the same as the +2 perception one, right?' As a total aside: The Cloak of Survival is most likely not going to make an appearance in the games I DM - I don't really like the glut of resistance items and the effect it has on play and certain monsters. I'm okay with the occasional resistance item to one type (amulet of health), but I dislike the ability for an entire party to be kitted out in resist fire or have resistances to 4 energies. That's just me, though. To each their own. [/QUOTE]
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