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Belt of Ironskin vs. Cloak of resistance
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<blockquote data-quote="jdpacheco" data-source="post: 4380603" data-attributes="member: 61319"><p>Now you're getting into an iffy territory. The Ironskin Cloak, in this case, would likely be *significantly* worse. What level would I place the items at? Hard to say.</p><p></p><p>As I said earlier, the advantage of the Ironskin belt is the fact that it *is* a belt. The Belt of Resistance is not a significantly kick-butt item, as you can now wear it with any number of other things (such as the Cloak of Survival) and still have it *easily* look good.</p><p></p><p>There are two questions you have to ask in this situation. "How likely is the average character to buy this?" and then balance it out with where you think the player the would have to honestly think about it. And then, for some items, it's more about "How likely is the intended character type to buy this?" If the item (like the Perfect Shot bracers) has a limited audience, that has to be taken into consideration, and may even lower the level a notch.</p><p></p><p>The Ironskin Cloak has the unfortunate penalty of not being quite what I consider 2nd level, but is clearly better than the first level item for its category. No player would debate "Do I want the amulet, or the cloak that does the same thing and also has a random daily power?". Clear choice. That means that it sort of has to be level 2, at least until someone comes up with a price 1.75 level items. (I'm not willing to go quite so low as 1.5...)</p><p></p><p>The Belt of Resistance... Would probably be a level 7 in my mind. Is it really as good as, say, a Belt of Sacrifice? Meh, probably not in the long run, but the +1 item bonus wouldn't stack with the Belt of Vigor that your teammate may have... A Belt of Resistance I don't think could push itself so high as level 9. I think it'll peak around level 7.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdpacheco, post: 4380603, member: 61319"] Now you're getting into an iffy territory. The Ironskin Cloak, in this case, would likely be *significantly* worse. What level would I place the items at? Hard to say. As I said earlier, the advantage of the Ironskin belt is the fact that it *is* a belt. The Belt of Resistance is not a significantly kick-butt item, as you can now wear it with any number of other things (such as the Cloak of Survival) and still have it *easily* look good. There are two questions you have to ask in this situation. "How likely is the average character to buy this?" and then balance it out with where you think the player the would have to honestly think about it. And then, for some items, it's more about "How likely is the intended character type to buy this?" If the item (like the Perfect Shot bracers) has a limited audience, that has to be taken into consideration, and may even lower the level a notch. The Ironskin Cloak has the unfortunate penalty of not being quite what I consider 2nd level, but is clearly better than the first level item for its category. No player would debate "Do I want the amulet, or the cloak that does the same thing and also has a random daily power?". Clear choice. That means that it sort of has to be level 2, at least until someone comes up with a price 1.75 level items. (I'm not willing to go quite so low as 1.5...) The Belt of Resistance... Would probably be a level 7 in my mind. Is it really as good as, say, a Belt of Sacrifice? Meh, probably not in the long run, but the +1 item bonus wouldn't stack with the Belt of Vigor that your teammate may have... A Belt of Resistance I don't think could push itself so high as level 9. I think it'll peak around level 7. [/QUOTE]
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