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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 9254100" data-attributes="member: 59816">It's a clarification if you clarify that THAT is what you're talking about. When you declare "All editions outsold each previous edition WITHOUT saying "when" or "in what way". I think it's fair to call it "spin". YMMV. At any rate, we don't need to argue the point - I only used it as a tongue-in-cheek critique of that quote.Yeah, at this point I have no idea the context of that original claim. I remember it, too, but details are fuzzy.Nah, I love 4e, and it DID sell VERY WELL at first, but it died out pretty quickly. It did NOT beat previous editions in lifetime sales. I mean, I'll grant that I've read compelling evidence to this that could be wrong, but I was convinced by it (in spite of having always assumed that 3.5 outsold everything else).I don't think that they ever specified. Hence, my point about spin.AFAIK, the only sales figures we have are from Riggs, who did painstaking research on the subject (including getting his hands on a LOT of stuff from TSR). He generally knows his stuff, which is one of the reasons I find this recent tangent of his to be... disappointing.Woah! You jabbing at me? I haven't been speaking to my store's data (4e outsold 3e at my store, but my store was much bigger by then. That's also true for 3e vs 2e, but I was "only" around for the 2e revised black books, not its initial release) - I've been speaking to books that I've read on the subject, and threads here.If you go for it, dig up the ones that talk about how 1e outsold 2e which outsold 3e which outsold 4e while you're at it.</blockquote>

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