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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AlViking" data-source="post: 9788236" data-attributes="member: 6906980">You seem to be assuming that people care about the internal structure of the rules over the enjoyment they have from creating characters, going on adventures and having fun with other players.  A lot of things that people enjoy have changed very little for decades, if not centuries.  People still play chess even though there haven't been any innovations for a long, long time.  Some people still play AD&D.It's fine if you are tired or the rules or focus more on the rules of the game than the play at the table, we all have different preferences.  I can say that I got tired of 3e because of the issues at higher level even if I did think it was "innovative" I guess in it's needed reimagination of the game.  I completely burned out on 4e.  But I can't say the same about 5e.  I like most of the changes they made for 2024 and can ignore the bits I don't like.  As long as I, and my friends, can come up with new adventures and characters I don't see why we wouldn't continue to play. Meanwhile there's always a fresh batch of newbies coming along.</blockquote>