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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9091476" data-attributes="member: 7026594"><p>The 1E PH was released in 1978, and the DMG (with the actual combat rules and saving throws; essential parts of the system) in 1979. The whole system was available for 10 years.</p><p></p><p>Original D&D (abbreviated OD&D or 0E) preceded it, starting in Feb 1974.</p><p></p><p>2nd edition didn't "bomb" in the sense of not selling at all. It sold, but less than 1E in part because a lot of players decided to just stick with 1E. And in part, as Snarf pointed out, because the big fad years for D&D were late '79 through 1983. 1E sales dropped off a cliff after the boom, and 2E sales were ok, but never matched the peak of when D&D was a fad.</p><p></p><p>2E's later books sold worse and worse it appears because they were cannibalizing their own sales, with a multiplicity of settings dividing the purchaser base. Ben Riggs has given us this data in his book and online. But the core books sold decently, which is what we're talking about here. Just not as well as other editions.</p><p></p><p>5E came out in 2014, right? So we're at nine years, not seven.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9091476, member: 7026594"] The 1E PH was released in 1978, and the DMG (with the actual combat rules and saving throws; essential parts of the system) in 1979. The whole system was available for 10 years. Original D&D (abbreviated OD&D or 0E) preceded it, starting in Feb 1974. 2nd edition didn't "bomb" in the sense of not selling at all. It sold, but less than 1E in part because a lot of players decided to just stick with 1E. And in part, as Snarf pointed out, because the big fad years for D&D were late '79 through 1983. 1E sales dropped off a cliff after the boom, and 2E sales were ok, but never matched the peak of when D&D was a fad. 2E's later books sold worse and worse it appears because they were cannibalizing their own sales, with a multiplicity of settings dividing the purchaser base. Ben Riggs has given us this data in his book and online. But the core books sold decently, which is what we're talking about here. Just not as well as other editions. 5E came out in 2014, right? So we're at nine years, not seven. [/QUOTE]
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