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Ben Riggs' "What the Heck Happened with 4th Edition?" seminar at Gen Con 2023
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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 9093116" data-attributes="member: 59816"><p>I think the problem here is that you seem to be treating the discussion as being done by some sort of hive-mind. I mean, you're absolutely right that it tends to go like that when you step back and look at the big picture - but each individual post by each individual poster has its own story and its own motivations. Yours as well! <em>You</em> wind up part of that big picture that makes it look that way!</p><p></p><p>I mean, look at US - seemingly arguing, when I enjoy your "company" - I think you're posts are both hilarious and educating! But you can't <em>discuss</em> anything without breaking a few eggs. You can only lecture. (Now, sometimes your posts ARE lectures, but in a good way!)</p><p></p><p>But it seems to me, that a lot of your post above reflects that you're looking at the big picture, and ignoring that it's made up of individuals. Some of the contradictions come because the claims are made by <em>different people</em>. Not all of them, of course. People are also contradictory, and even further, are terrible at explaining themselves. Especially in writing. Many people here are terrible writers, but even those of us who are good writers find it hard to express what we're trying to say here - sometime famously misunderstood. You <em>know</em> that it happens to you.</p><p></p><p>I don't think that disagreeing on some piece of nuance on another person's post is any attempt to end a discussion - it's an attempt to engage in it. Even when the poster doesn't understand that that's what they're doing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 9093116, member: 59816"] I think the problem here is that you seem to be treating the discussion as being done by some sort of hive-mind. I mean, you're absolutely right that it tends to go like that when you step back and look at the big picture - but each individual post by each individual poster has its own story and its own motivations. Yours as well! [I]You[/I] wind up part of that big picture that makes it look that way! I mean, look at US - seemingly arguing, when I enjoy your "company" - I think you're posts are both hilarious and educating! But you can't [I]discuss[/I] anything without breaking a few eggs. You can only lecture. (Now, sometimes your posts ARE lectures, but in a good way!) But it seems to me, that a lot of your post above reflects that you're looking at the big picture, and ignoring that it's made up of individuals. Some of the contradictions come because the claims are made by [I]different people[/I]. Not all of them, of course. People are also contradictory, and even further, are terrible at explaining themselves. Especially in writing. Many people here are terrible writers, but even those of us who are good writers find it hard to express what we're trying to say here - sometime famously misunderstood. You [I]know[/I] that it happens to you. I don't think that disagreeing on some piece of nuance on another person's post is any attempt to end a discussion - it's an attempt to engage in it. Even when the poster doesn't understand that that's what they're doing. [/QUOTE]
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