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<blockquote data-quote="Pedantic" data-source="post: 9097391" data-attributes="member: 6690965"><p>I don't really see this as a problem. If more subsystems are necessary, then we should just write more subsystems. Frankly a lot of them are probably reified FKR smaller rulings that have been iterated on.</p><p></p><p>This is the point that I find most frustrating. If on the fly ad hoc design is as good or better than a published product, the published product is and was always bad. We let a lot of bad design go a lot further in TTRPGs than other kinds of games and that is frustrating...but it isn't inevitable, and nothing good comes from treating it as though it is. I want a class of designers that produce a better product that better achieves a set of design goals than a GM making it up on the spot. A system that fails to do that is an indictment of a particular design (and perhaps its designer) but not of the underlying possibility of design as a whole.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pedantic, post: 9097391, member: 6690965"] I don't really see this as a problem. If more subsystems are necessary, then we should just write more subsystems. Frankly a lot of them are probably reified FKR smaller rulings that have been iterated on. This is the point that I find most frustrating. If on the fly ad hoc design is as good or better than a published product, the published product is and was always bad. We let a lot of bad design go a lot further in TTRPGs than other kinds of games and that is frustrating...but it isn't inevitable, and nothing good comes from treating it as though it is. I want a class of designers that produce a better product that better achieves a set of design goals than a GM making it up on the spot. A system that fails to do that is an indictment of a particular design (and perhaps its designer) but not of the underlying possibility of design as a whole. [/QUOTE]
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