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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9098843" data-attributes="member: 82106">They are a beautiful an ingenious mechanic. The fact that you denigrate one of the aspects of 4e that most enables it as a really excellent narrativist system is telling IMHO. It doesn't go against the rest of the system AT ALL. At most it is an acknowledgement that attempting to completely parameterize the vast range of "this is not combat" activities that come up in an RPG requires a pretty open-ended framework, but the provision OF such a framework is very much in keeping with the way 4e's overall design works and its aims.I think this whole 'fiction doesn't matter' thing is, AT BEST, a gross mischaracterization. I mean, ALL of my 4e play is heavily marked by extremely dynamic action sequences in which the fiction is overwhelmingly important! No other system compares with it in the D&D sphere in terms of doing this stuff BECAUSE you can rely on how actions will be adjudicated, and then spin from there! Its awesome. All the crazy stuff that I yearned to see happen in AD&D but which players are trained to run away from in fear because any risk is anathema to survival in that game all come to life amazingly in 4e.</blockquote>