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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9100350" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Well... 4e really makes no comment or commitment as to what the 'average man' is actually like. Yes, the rules contain things like minions, but those are thematic and dramatic in nature, not really descriptive of any kind of 'reality of the game world' beyond "here's what happens when we put this guy in the PC's story under the current circumstances." I mean, we reason that 'normal humans' are generally lower level and minions probably properly portray them in a lot of cases. However, unlike say AD&D, races don't have levels, per se. humans are not '0 level humanoids' or OD&D's '1d6 per stand' low-quality figures in 4e. 'level' is a concept that applies to PCs for purposes of structuring play and progression. It CAN be applied to a limited degree to some NPCs (human or otherwise) as in there are Companion Characters, as well as things like some ranger's beasts that may be progressed along with the PCs. </p><p></p><p>I don't think it would be especially challenging to build some stat blocks that represented weaker or stronger figures that are in between the power levels of level 1 minions and level 1 standards. Many of us thought about it, tinkered with it, found them to have no compelling use case, and dropped the idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 9100350, member: 82106"] Well... 4e really makes no comment or commitment as to what the 'average man' is actually like. Yes, the rules contain things like minions, but those are thematic and dramatic in nature, not really descriptive of any kind of 'reality of the game world' beyond "here's what happens when we put this guy in the PC's story under the current circumstances." I mean, we reason that 'normal humans' are generally lower level and minions probably properly portray them in a lot of cases. However, unlike say AD&D, races don't have levels, per se. humans are not '0 level humanoids' or OD&D's '1d6 per stand' low-quality figures in 4e. 'level' is a concept that applies to PCs for purposes of structuring play and progression. It CAN be applied to a limited degree to some NPCs (human or otherwise) as in there are Companion Characters, as well as things like some ranger's beasts that may be progressed along with the PCs. I don't think it would be especially challenging to build some stat blocks that represented weaker or stronger figures that are in between the power levels of level 1 minions and level 1 standards. Many of us thought about it, tinkered with it, found them to have no compelling use case, and dropped the idea. [/QUOTE]
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