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Ben Riggs' "What the Heck Happened with 4th Edition?" seminar at Gen Con 2023
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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9163269" data-attributes="member: 6877472"><p>I'm not going to say that 3e rules were clearer than 2e's. But I will say that the internet certainly gave anyone going online a huge resource of people saying "hey, this is how the rules work" that 2e lacked.</p><p></p><p>In the murky days of AD&D (both versions), generally your main rules resource was the DM, who told you how the game worked. Suddenly, anyone could gain the benefit of knowing how the game worked, and the DM was no longer the trusted authority.</p><p></p><p>If you said "hey, I'm going to do this", and the DM said "no, it doesn't work that way", the player went from going "oh, darn" to "wait...it clearly says I can on page XX...what are you trying to pull here?"</p><p></p><p>Because the other thing the internet gave us was DM horror stories, lol. Now DM's everywhere were suspect, and their "God" status was questioned. So now you had to earn your player's trust and keep it.</p><p></p><p>I didn't see that as a bad thing at all (having endured some of those DM horror stories IRL, lol), but it did mean that a DM needed to have more in-depth knowledge of the rules to protect them from bad players than ever before (because PC horror stories are also a thing!).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9163269, member: 6877472"] I'm not going to say that 3e rules were clearer than 2e's. But I will say that the internet certainly gave anyone going online a huge resource of people saying "hey, this is how the rules work" that 2e lacked. In the murky days of AD&D (both versions), generally your main rules resource was the DM, who told you how the game worked. Suddenly, anyone could gain the benefit of knowing how the game worked, and the DM was no longer the trusted authority. If you said "hey, I'm going to do this", and the DM said "no, it doesn't work that way", the player went from going "oh, darn" to "wait...it clearly says I can on page XX...what are you trying to pull here?" Because the other thing the internet gave us was DM horror stories, lol. Now DM's everywhere were suspect, and their "God" status was questioned. So now you had to earn your player's trust and keep it. I didn't see that as a bad thing at all (having endured some of those DM horror stories IRL, lol), but it did mean that a DM needed to have more in-depth knowledge of the rules to protect them from bad players than ever before (because PC horror stories are also a thing!). [/QUOTE]
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