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Message: <blockquote data-quote="thenightgaunt" data-source="post: 9189961" data-attributes="member: 6673567">That's always a tricky one to read. What's silly to one might be hurtful to another. Like I thought the animated bits were funny. My wife and I still joke about the gnome. "I'm a monster. Rawr!"But there are some things in the Wizards Presents books that, yeah, I found insufferable and insulting. Things that carried with them a subtext of "If you play this particular way, then you're wrong and your tastes are worth of mockery". That might not have been what they meant to convey, but that's how it came across to some. BUT the big important part of this is that what THEY wrote, doesn't reflect any of us. And it also doesn't actually reflect on the game itself. Unless someone here was on the 4e design and marketing team, no one here shares any blame for their missteps.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />It's their tone and phrasing some of those writers used in those books. Writing can in fact be deeply insulting. And while it wasn't part of the 4e game's actual design, parts of the designers' PR and Marketing efforts for 4e could be interpreted as being pretty insulting to anyone who didn't agree with them. But the fact is that not all game designers are good speakers. Some of the people they got to write the Wizards Presents books and do interviews to promote the edition, should have been left back in the office to work on the books.Sweet. Have fun. It's seeing a resurgence thanks to 5e stumbling. A lot of people who started with 5e have grown past the offerings of the system and want something with more meat to it. And they're finding what they want in games like Pathfinder and 4e D&D.</blockquote>

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