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Ben Riggs' "What the Heck Happened with 4th Edition?" seminar at Gen Con 2023
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<blockquote data-quote="Red Castle" data-source="post: 9202680" data-attributes="member: 7040765"><p>Exactly! So it’s easy to imagine that someone that invested a lot in 3.5 could be pissed off at the idea of « needing » to do it all over again. Especially if he was happy with 3.5, why change? That’s kinda what happened with me with 5e. I invested a lot in 4e, was (and still is) very happy with it, so I never bothered with 5e. The only reason I bought a PHB of 5e two years ago is because a friend of mine wanted to DM a 5e game so I bought the PHB to create my character… but if I DM a DnD game, I still use 4e.</p><p></p><p>Now, I’m pretty sure that some people (not everybody) that was angry about the change, fearing that everybody would move to 4e and leave them with an obsolete book collection, were actually looking for reason to hate the new edition, to convince people to keep playing 3.5, the edition they already invested a lot in. Also, if that person was the forever DM of his group (often the case with people that buy a lot of books), it’s easy to imagine him talking trash about the new edition to his players, so that they don’t want to try it and keep playing with his edition of choice.</p><p></p><p>Now, I’m really not saying that it’s the main reason of the backlash, but I’m pretty sure it’s at least a part of it. Maybe if 4e got released 2-3 years later with 3.5 book release slowing down in those 2-3 years, people might have been more open to the change, but so close to the release of 3.5, with an aggressive release schedule following another one… odds were high that it would pissed off a part of their playerbase…</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Red Castle, post: 9202680, member: 7040765"] Exactly! So it’s easy to imagine that someone that invested a lot in 3.5 could be pissed off at the idea of « needing » to do it all over again. Especially if he was happy with 3.5, why change? That’s kinda what happened with me with 5e. I invested a lot in 4e, was (and still is) very happy with it, so I never bothered with 5e. The only reason I bought a PHB of 5e two years ago is because a friend of mine wanted to DM a 5e game so I bought the PHB to create my character… but if I DM a DnD game, I still use 4e. Now, I’m pretty sure that some people (not everybody) that was angry about the change, fearing that everybody would move to 4e and leave them with an obsolete book collection, were actually looking for reason to hate the new edition, to convince people to keep playing 3.5, the edition they already invested a lot in. Also, if that person was the forever DM of his group (often the case with people that buy a lot of books), it’s easy to imagine him talking trash about the new edition to his players, so that they don’t want to try it and keep playing with his edition of choice. Now, I’m really not saying that it’s the main reason of the backlash, but I’m pretty sure it’s at least a part of it. Maybe if 4e got released 2-3 years later with 3.5 book release slowing down in those 2-3 years, people might have been more open to the change, but so close to the release of 3.5, with an aggressive release schedule following another one… odds were high that it would pissed off a part of their playerbase… [/QUOTE]
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