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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 9203023" data-attributes="member: 8461">You're misunderstanding me; 5E doesn't have damage on a miss, and so ergo it's not correct to say that 5E is "no better" than 4E in its having hit points do double duty in what they represent. "No better," as I understood it, meant that it presented all of the same ambiguities in that regard, which isn't true, since damage on a miss was one of those ambiguities, and it's not there in 5E.Again, the disregard is in the game system itself. Gygax wrote that section of the DMG, and then presented absolutely nothing to back up the idea that hit point loss/recovery was anything other than injuries/healing. He talks about it being divine protection and luck (among other things), but has no rules, fiction, or presentation within the body of the text for getting hit points back via prayers, tithing, good luck charms, etc. The game presentation always treats hit point loss as "damage," has a successful attack roll being a hit in combat (e.g. if you're being attacked with a poisoned weapon), etc. and likewise does the same thing for when you get hit points back.</blockquote>