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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9214657" data-attributes="member: 22779">Before we get too deep into the weeds, let me clarify. I’m very much not defending 4e. My point is, if the sacrifices that 4e made bother you enough to not play the game, why is it okay for 5e to make exactly the same sacrifices? Now [USER=6747251]@Micah Sweet[/USER] is at least consistent here. He doesn’t like 5e DnD and has been very clear about that. Nor does [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER]. Fair enough. I’m pointing to the apparent inconsistency where someone says they don’t like what 4e has done but are then perfectly fine with the same things being done in 5e. See I know why these things don’t bother me. I like them. But for those that say these are major problems, why are they suddenly not problems in 5e?And the only reason I can come up with is how these things are presented. A 4e style power that lets you run faster is bad. But the same thing stated in natural language in 5e is fine.</blockquote>