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<blockquote data-quote="Autumnal" data-source="post: 9216911" data-attributes="member: 6671663"><p>Putting on my editor/developer hat, I am fairly sure that “double standard” is not the phrase that fits what bugs you. Double standards are what should be single standard but applied inconsistently: racial differences in criminal sentences, lenient penance for a confessor’s buddies, and the like. You’ve got a semiotic concern, wanting each sign to signify one thing and each thing to have one sign. Or you can skip invoking semiotics and say that it’s about identities and how we define them.</p><p></p><p>But one-to-several relations are super common in reality. Electromagnetism manifests differently depending on whether the magnet or the electric field is moving, but it is a single force. There are four distinct phases of matter, but water is water regardless of whether it’s plasma, gas, liquid, or solid. There are more than 400 distinct kinds of cells, but the ones in the autonomic nervous system are not more or less you than the ones in your epidermis or your bone marrow.</p><p></p><p>None of those are double standards. And hp meaning things besides injury isn’t, either. It’s a complex definition, and you’d prefer it be a unitary one, or at least a simple one - four elements instead of the 100+ of the periodic table, four humors instead of the DSM, a round world instead of an oblate spheroid, Newtonian mechanics without the complications of relativity for conditions we don’t live in or deal with, and so on. Discussions of color names get into this all the time. So do medical discussions of overlapping sets of symptoms.</p><p></p><p>The key thing is that when we’re discussing labels and their targets, particularly imaginary targets, there’s no privileged should-be-presumed-correct stance on single and multiple identities and definitions. There’s utility and enjoyability, and if anyone has a funoscope or utilitometer, they never shared it with <em>me</em>. Just, please, keep in mind, that we don’t have to grant you any kind of moral high ground at the outset.</p><p></p><p>Like most folks here, I find it vastly simpler and more useful to take the traditional definition of hp as covering multiple things to mean what it is. I’m left never needing to do more than minor label surgery to anything that happens in play, and I like that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Autumnal, post: 9216911, member: 6671663"] Putting on my editor/developer hat, I am fairly sure that “double standard” is not the phrase that fits what bugs you. Double standards are what should be single standard but applied inconsistently: racial differences in criminal sentences, lenient penance for a confessor’s buddies, and the like. You’ve got a semiotic concern, wanting each sign to signify one thing and each thing to have one sign. Or you can skip invoking semiotics and say that it’s about identities and how we define them. But one-to-several relations are super common in reality. Electromagnetism manifests differently depending on whether the magnet or the electric field is moving, but it is a single force. There are four distinct phases of matter, but water is water regardless of whether it’s plasma, gas, liquid, or solid. There are more than 400 distinct kinds of cells, but the ones in the autonomic nervous system are not more or less you than the ones in your epidermis or your bone marrow. None of those are double standards. And hp meaning things besides injury isn’t, either. It’s a complex definition, and you’d prefer it be a unitary one, or at least a simple one - four elements instead of the 100+ of the periodic table, four humors instead of the DSM, a round world instead of an oblate spheroid, Newtonian mechanics without the complications of relativity for conditions we don’t live in or deal with, and so on. Discussions of color names get into this all the time. So do medical discussions of overlapping sets of symptoms. The key thing is that when we’re discussing labels and their targets, particularly imaginary targets, there’s no privileged should-be-presumed-correct stance on single and multiple identities and definitions. There’s utility and enjoyability, and if anyone has a funoscope or utilitometer, they never shared it with [I]me[/I]. Just, please, keep in mind, that we don’t have to grant you any kind of moral high ground at the outset. Like most folks here, I find it vastly simpler and more useful to take the traditional definition of hp as covering multiple things to mean what it is. I’m left never needing to do more than minor label surgery to anything that happens in play, and I like that. [/QUOTE]
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