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<blockquote data-quote="Red Castle" data-source="post: 9217382" data-attributes="member: 7040765"><p>As has been shown multiple times in this thread, 4e is very clear that damage is not just physical damage, but also stamina, will, lick, etc. 4e also made it very clear that a miss is not necessarily a total miss but might still brings different effects like a scratch, a little burn or exhaustion for trying to parry the blow, also shown earlier in this thread. Finally, the fact that a character can get back to full HP after just a little 5 minutes rest makes it pretty clear that there is no real, severe damage done during an encounter, also supported by the fact that the characters can still fight as if nothing happened until they reach 0HP. But it doesn’t mean that there is no physical damage either. But also,it’s not because there is physical damage that abilities like Second Wind and Inspiring Words don’t work in the fiction either. It’s actually pretty common in stories and movies to represent those two kinds of healing.</p><p></p><p>…..</p><p></p><p>As our hero is fighting against the bad guy, he gets beaten up pretty hard ,iis thrown out the window and fall from a two-story building. As he try to get the strength to get back up on his feets, he sees the bad guy coming down to give the final blow. As he spits blood on the ground, he find the resolve in him to get back up and continue the fight. Not today, he thinks to himself.</p><p></p><p>Our hero just used his Second Wind as a Standard action and a move action to stand up… he might take an Action point if he has one available to charge the bad guy.</p><p></p><p>…… </p><p></p><p>Our hero is part of the army running up the hill, trying to get to the enemy fortress while there are explosions everywhere. Suddenly, an explosion comes too close and he gets propelled. As he lays on the ground, blood flowing to his eyes, he sees only corpses of fellow soldiers around him. But as he feels his energy leaving him and about to pass out, he hears the captain yells, his old friend from the village ‘Come out soldier! Get up! The realm needs you! The world needs you! We can’t let this Necromencer win!’ Our hero, hearing those words, find the resolve in him to get back up and continue to run up the hill.</p><p></p><p>Our hero, even injured, just got some HP back from the Warlord Inspiring Words.</p><p></p><p>…..</p><p></p><p>After a big fight, our heroes decide to take their breath before continuing. It was overall an easy fight, nothing serious, some scratch here and there. But as they decide to continue, one of them has trouble getting up. touching his abdomen, he realises that what he thought was just a scratch during the encounter was in fact a deeper wound that he didn’t felt because of the adrenalin. Looks like there is a wound to heal after all.</p><p></p><p>The cleric of the group then use Cure Light Wounds on what was believe to be just a scratch at first and they continue their journey as if nothing happened.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Red Castle, post: 9217382, member: 7040765"] As has been shown multiple times in this thread, 4e is very clear that damage is not just physical damage, but also stamina, will, lick, etc. 4e also made it very clear that a miss is not necessarily a total miss but might still brings different effects like a scratch, a little burn or exhaustion for trying to parry the blow, also shown earlier in this thread. Finally, the fact that a character can get back to full HP after just a little 5 minutes rest makes it pretty clear that there is no real, severe damage done during an encounter, also supported by the fact that the characters can still fight as if nothing happened until they reach 0HP. But it doesn’t mean that there is no physical damage either. But also,it’s not because there is physical damage that abilities like Second Wind and Inspiring Words don’t work in the fiction either. It’s actually pretty common in stories and movies to represent those two kinds of healing. ….. As our hero is fighting against the bad guy, he gets beaten up pretty hard ,iis thrown out the window and fall from a two-story building. As he try to get the strength to get back up on his feets, he sees the bad guy coming down to give the final blow. As he spits blood on the ground, he find the resolve in him to get back up and continue the fight. Not today, he thinks to himself. Our hero just used his Second Wind as a Standard action and a move action to stand up… he might take an Action point if he has one available to charge the bad guy. …… Our hero is part of the army running up the hill, trying to get to the enemy fortress while there are explosions everywhere. Suddenly, an explosion comes too close and he gets propelled. As he lays on the ground, blood flowing to his eyes, he sees only corpses of fellow soldiers around him. But as he feels his energy leaving him and about to pass out, he hears the captain yells, his old friend from the village ‘Come out soldier! Get up! The realm needs you! The world needs you! We can’t let this Necromencer win!’ Our hero, hearing those words, find the resolve in him to get back up and continue to run up the hill. Our hero, even injured, just got some HP back from the Warlord Inspiring Words. ….. After a big fight, our heroes decide to take their breath before continuing. It was overall an easy fight, nothing serious, some scratch here and there. But as they decide to continue, one of them has trouble getting up. touching his abdomen, he realises that what he thought was just a scratch during the encounter was in fact a deeper wound that he didn’t felt because of the adrenalin. Looks like there is a wound to heal after all. The cleric of the group then use Cure Light Wounds on what was believe to be just a scratch at first and they continue their journey as if nothing happened. [/QUOTE]
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