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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9219349" data-attributes="member: 22779">That's the basic issue at the end of the day.Do you want a game to tell you what the explanations are, or do you not want the game to tell you what the explanations are?And that dichotomy is at the heart of why you guys keep talking past each other.  And why you will never actually come to any sort of compromise.  One side looks at D&D and sees that all this stuff is defined by the system and can't imagine playing D&D without those system defined elements.  The other side disagrees, thinks that very little is defined by the system and can't imagine trying to use the definitions in the system to define in game reality.And you guys are just not going to agree.  I am rather sad that it has taken me so long to understand this.  I kept talking about how it's a presentation issue.  I do hope that @Bill91 will check this out on his phone or something and see that I would very much like to apologize for being such a dick.  I just didn't understand.  It's not really about presentation.  It's all about interpretation.  To be honest, until all the arguments about 4e came along, I never imagined that not only did people play D&D this way but that D&D could even BE played this way.  I'd never seen it before.  And because I had never seen it, I think I started presuming bad faith which is totally my bad.People aren't arguing this in bad faith.  They really believe that D&D defines this stuff.  Who knew?  (Yes, I do realize the irony here since I was explicitly told this over and over, but, it's taken me this long just to beat it into my skull - I got there eventually)</blockquote>

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