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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 9220545" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>Its not about being a hypocrite Micah.</p><p></p><p>Its a conversation about the tenuousness or robustness of a position. Its about how much purchase said position should be granted (in both subsequent conversation about gaming and in terms of catering to those interests in subsequent design) on the strength of the position alone rather than in the emotional intensity one expresses over the position (like "I REALLY HATE DAMAGE ON A MISS AND INSPIRATIONAL HEALING SO CUT IT OUT WOTC"). </p><p></p><p>Its not a commentary on someone's "do as I say not as I do" qualities. Its not personal.</p><p></p><p>I don't think someone is a hypocrite for hating DoaM. I just see their position as being deeply tenuous (see my post just above) broadly and specifically when it comes to a system (D&D) where escalating HPs and escalating damage expressions are core features. The historical D&D record on the subject isn't absolutely necessary for me to arrive where I'm at (and where I've long been), but it clearly further backstops my thoughts on the subject (see the array of evidence in this thread and there is more out there on it).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 9220545, member: 6696971"] Its not about being a hypocrite Micah. Its a conversation about the tenuousness or robustness of a position. Its about how much purchase said position should be granted (in both subsequent conversation about gaming and in terms of catering to those interests in subsequent design) on the strength of the position alone rather than in the emotional intensity one expresses over the position (like "I REALLY HATE DAMAGE ON A MISS AND INSPIRATIONAL HEALING SO CUT IT OUT WOTC"). Its not a commentary on someone's "do as I say not as I do" qualities. Its not personal. I don't think someone is a hypocrite for hating DoaM. I just see their position as being deeply tenuous (see my post just above) broadly and specifically when it comes to a system (D&D) where escalating HPs and escalating damage expressions are core features. The historical D&D record on the subject isn't absolutely necessary for me to arrive where I'm at (and where I've long been), but it clearly further backstops my thoughts on the subject (see the array of evidence in this thread and there is more out there on it). [/QUOTE]
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