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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9224566" data-attributes="member: 6877472"><p>I think I stopped caring about alignment because there were no benefits to it, only hindrances. I typically play heroic characters, because to my mind, D&D characters should attempt to be heroic. I'm not solely motivated by self-interest, and I will help people when I can.</p><p></p><p>However, more and more, I found selecting "good" for my character was more of a straightjacket than I think it was intended. I would have to contemplate if an action I was about to undertake was "evil" or not. Often, my party members would engage in nefarious acts, and I had to decide if my morals were more important than not playing, ditching my character, or worse, working at cross purposes to the other players.</p><p></p><p>What finally put the nail in the coffin was when I was playing Pathfinder 1e and an enemy used Unholy Word. That basically broke me- not only was holding myself to a good alignment sometimes difficult, but now I could be punished for it? So I made my next character Neutral, deciding I couldn't be bothered with concepts like "good" and "evil". I didn't kick puppies or was particularly selfish, I simply had my own code. </p><p></p><p>And I experienced no real problems for it. </p><p></p><p>This does bother me, because I still prefer my characters be virtuous, but if putting "good" on my character sheet only has the potential to make play miserable, then what good is it? Sure, in reality, I would expect good NPC's to react better to good PC's or something, but when you don't see that reflected in play, it's a bit upsetting.</p><p></p><p>NPC's I encounter care more about your species or what gods you worship than what your given alignment is. A friend of mine created his own system, and it uses elemental alignments that have a fundamental impact on your character's abilities, even giving you a special trait only individuals of that alignment (or alignments, as most characters have two alignments) possess.</p><p></p><p>It's a lot more fun than any version of alignment I've played with in D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9224566, member: 6877472"] I think I stopped caring about alignment because there were no benefits to it, only hindrances. I typically play heroic characters, because to my mind, D&D characters should attempt to be heroic. I'm not solely motivated by self-interest, and I will help people when I can. However, more and more, I found selecting "good" for my character was more of a straightjacket than I think it was intended. I would have to contemplate if an action I was about to undertake was "evil" or not. Often, my party members would engage in nefarious acts, and I had to decide if my morals were more important than not playing, ditching my character, or worse, working at cross purposes to the other players. What finally put the nail in the coffin was when I was playing Pathfinder 1e and an enemy used Unholy Word. That basically broke me- not only was holding myself to a good alignment sometimes difficult, but now I could be punished for it? So I made my next character Neutral, deciding I couldn't be bothered with concepts like "good" and "evil". I didn't kick puppies or was particularly selfish, I simply had my own code. And I experienced no real problems for it. This does bother me, because I still prefer my characters be virtuous, but if putting "good" on my character sheet only has the potential to make play miserable, then what good is it? Sure, in reality, I would expect good NPC's to react better to good PC's or something, but when you don't see that reflected in play, it's a bit upsetting. NPC's I encounter care more about your species or what gods you worship than what your given alignment is. A friend of mine created his own system, and it uses elemental alignments that have a fundamental impact on your character's abilities, even giving you a special trait only individuals of that alignment (or alignments, as most characters have two alignments) possess. It's a lot more fun than any version of alignment I've played with in D&D. [/QUOTE]
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