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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9226250" data-attributes="member: 7026594">I think it's reasonable to say that different people consumed different amounts of the pre-publication materials for 4E and got different impressions from it.And that the game as-published conflicted or didn't conflict to varying degrees with the preferred play style and agendas of different groups and players.*And that overall the market/player base was in a less receptive state than they were for 3rd, probably less than they were for 2E, which was the other edition we saw a lot of folks not bother to update to, though it was less visible since we weren't all on the internet yet.*(My main group, despite having some book release fatigue, was well-positioned for it.  We were mostly also miniatures wargamers so we appreciated the tactical depth, and we had played the HELL out of 3.x and gotten exhausted by how slow and cumbersome high level play got.  We were ready for something fresh.  Some stuff still didn't make sense to us at first (I initially wanted to house rule back in 1-2-1 diagonal movement), but it worked very well for us, for the most part.)</blockquote>