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Ben Riggs' "What the Heck Happened with 4th Edition?" seminar at Gen Con 2023
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<blockquote data-quote="Yalım" data-source="post: 9227072" data-attributes="member: 94569"><p>I spend a lot of time on D&D reddit (shame, shame upon me!) and variations on this thought-terminating cliche come up so much. I want to come out of their monitor and shake the people writing them.</p><p></p><p>The logical path always seems to go:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">4e did [thing]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">4e did badly</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">everyone must hate [thing]</li> </ol><p>I usually see it in the context of "I like this thing but it reminds me vaguely of 4e in this tenous way so everyone else won't like it, sorry." Or in a weird elitist peacocking sort of way: "well <em>you and I </em>appreciate balance, but the <em>unwashed masses</em> would <em>hate</em> it. After all [mumble mumble] <em>fourth edition</em>."</p><p></p><p>I'll click on a popular fighter rework post on /r/UnearthedArcana and there are like 3 comments in a row all written like this. Like hey everyone, did we consider that maybe we're missing a casual connection here?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yalım, post: 9227072, member: 94569"] I spend a lot of time on D&D reddit (shame, shame upon me!) and variations on this thought-terminating cliche come up so much. I want to come out of their monitor and shake the people writing them. The logical path always seems to go: [LIST=1] [*]4e did [thing] [*]4e did badly [*]everyone must hate [thing] [/LIST] I usually see it in the context of "I like this thing but it reminds me vaguely of 4e in this tenous way so everyone else won't like it, sorry." Or in a weird elitist peacocking sort of way: "well [I]you and I [/I]appreciate balance, but the [I]unwashed masses[/I] would [I]hate[/I] it. After all [mumble mumble] [I]fourth edition[/I]." I'll click on a popular fighter rework post on /r/UnearthedArcana and there are like 3 comments in a row all written like this. Like hey everyone, did we consider that maybe we're missing a casual connection here? [/QUOTE]
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