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Ben Riggs' "What the Heck Happened with 4th Edition?" seminar at Gen Con 2023
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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9227882" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Yeah, and the interesting thing is, to me, that one of my perspectives on 5e is that it can greatly reduce the need to keep making fairly informed decisions about build options constantly in order to build up both thematic and mechanical aspects of your character. 4e has a lot of details, and the rules structure is pretty straightforward, but the interactions can be fairly intricate. On the 4e+ thread that's going now we were talking about a few character builds, and really these things get pretty specific! You can kind of just blunder through the 5e PHB and pick what you want, there's not really that many choice points for a fighter (a couple at levels 1 and 3, and then a fairly straightforward set of "pick the ASI!" mostly after that. There are some simple 4e builds too, but I think there's some virtue in 'simplicity of build, subtlety in play'. 5e did make incrementally improve there.</p><p></p><p>OTOH 3.x is just a hot mess in that department, but if you have played for 20 years...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 9227882, member: 82106"] Yeah, and the interesting thing is, to me, that one of my perspectives on 5e is that it can greatly reduce the need to keep making fairly informed decisions about build options constantly in order to build up both thematic and mechanical aspects of your character. 4e has a lot of details, and the rules structure is pretty straightforward, but the interactions can be fairly intricate. On the 4e+ thread that's going now we were talking about a few character builds, and really these things get pretty specific! You can kind of just blunder through the 5e PHB and pick what you want, there's not really that many choice points for a fighter (a couple at levels 1 and 3, and then a fairly straightforward set of "pick the ASI!" mostly after that. There are some simple 4e builds too, but I think there's some virtue in 'simplicity of build, subtlety in play'. 5e did make incrementally improve there. OTOH 3.x is just a hot mess in that department, but if you have played for 20 years... [/QUOTE]
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