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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9590416" data-attributes="member: 42582">Agreed. And contrary to popular opinion, there is no significant change in hp between the MM and the MM3/Essentials MV except that solos have only 4x rather than 5x hp.The DMG suggests damage equal to 1d8 + half level. I think most MM monsters match this. MM3 and MV step this up to 1d8 + level. Which in my experience works better (though at Heroic tier the difference is not great; hence why MM monsters are generally fine at Heroic tier).The later monster also does not give Brutes a -2 to hit compared to other creatures of that level.I found them generally fine except for needing damage to be stepped up at Paragon and Epic tier. And sometimes Brutes needed to have the -2 to hit removed.</blockquote>