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<blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 7395198" data-attributes="member: 17607"><p>I don't think this is a winning line of argument -- contrast Bardic Inspiration with the text for the Divination Wizard's Portent ability:</p><p></p><p>"You can replace any attack roll, saving throw, or ability check made <strong>by you or a creature that you can see</strong> with one of these foretelling rolls." (emphasis mine)</p><p></p><p>Where the rules intend that you can use an ability on yourself, they will say so explicitly, as they do with this ability. More to the point, since you are a 'creature you can see', if the designers intended that phrase to indicate any non-invisible creature (including yourself), then there's no reason to include 'you' in the text -- they could simply have left it as "check made by a creature you can see".</p><p></p><p>Honestly, I don't think the designers of 5e go into that much thought when describing their abilities -- they certainly don't keyword or otherwise make general definitional rules about how abliities work outside of abilities that already have a tradition of definition in other editions (spell components, for instance). Plus, the intent of the wording of Bend Luck does seem to imply that it's an ability like Bardic Inspiration that is meant to be used to benefit the character's allies or hinder the character's enemies, which increases the degree of interactivity between characters in a party. Allowing Bend Luck to be used on the sorcerer's own rolls simply means that most sorcerers will use the ability on their own rolls rather than aiding other party members. As a DM, I'm OK with ruling that Bend Luck can't be used to benefit the sorcerers rolls.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>Pauper</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pauper, post: 7395198, member: 17607"] I don't think this is a winning line of argument -- contrast Bardic Inspiration with the text for the Divination Wizard's Portent ability: "You can replace any attack roll, saving throw, or ability check made [b]by you or a creature that you can see[/b] with one of these foretelling rolls." (emphasis mine) Where the rules intend that you can use an ability on yourself, they will say so explicitly, as they do with this ability. More to the point, since you are a 'creature you can see', if the designers intended that phrase to indicate any non-invisible creature (including yourself), then there's no reason to include 'you' in the text -- they could simply have left it as "check made by a creature you can see". Honestly, I don't think the designers of 5e go into that much thought when describing their abilities -- they certainly don't keyword or otherwise make general definitional rules about how abliities work outside of abilities that already have a tradition of definition in other editions (spell components, for instance). Plus, the intent of the wording of Bend Luck does seem to imply that it's an ability like Bardic Inspiration that is meant to be used to benefit the character's allies or hinder the character's enemies, which increases the degree of interactivity between characters in a party. Allowing Bend Luck to be used on the sorcerer's own rolls simply means that most sorcerers will use the ability on their own rolls rather than aiding other party members. As a DM, I'm OK with ruling that Bend Luck can't be used to benefit the sorcerers rolls. -- Pauper [/QUOTE]
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