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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9679348" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah which is why "benevolent" is not a good term. It causes confusion with an existing approach, it doesn't diminish it.</p><p></p><p>GMPCs are generally not favoured by DMs who like their players and their PCs and want them to succeed.</p><p></p><p>GMPCs are generally favoured by DMs who want to make themselves, personally, into a Big Damn Hero, and show off how cool and superior their GMPC is to the actual PCs. You can swear blind that that's not your intention, and hey, maybe it isn't, but the fact remains, it is absolutely how most GMPCs actually turn out - certainly those on the same power level as the PCs or higher.</p><p></p><p>As such "Masturbatory Stance" would me to see more appropriate than "Benevolent Stance" here. The only person a GMPC is ever really helping is the GM, and more specifically his ego. I am only semi-joking lol. It really is not "benevolent" to try and make yourself the hero.</p><p></p><p>As for not using GMPCs, okay but what are you talking about exactly? All DMs will sometimes have NPCs on the same side as the PCs, that's just part of being a DM. There's no stance to it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not possible, no. It's like organisations investigating themselves. You're not a bodhisattva or similar, so you're inevitably going to screw that balance up. You've got an inherent and completely massive conflict of interest even just as a keeper of secrets. "Enforcer of a consistent unified vision" isn't something that's necessary to a well-functioning game, it's usually something that is needed when you're essentially forcing unruly players who aren't really consenting to a specific vibe into that vibe.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You literally can't play both sides during prep, what are you talking about? You're not even playing the game during prep!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9679348, member: 18"] Yeah which is why "benevolent" is not a good term. It causes confusion with an existing approach, it doesn't diminish it. GMPCs are generally not favoured by DMs who like their players and their PCs and want them to succeed. GMPCs are generally favoured by DMs who want to make themselves, personally, into a Big Damn Hero, and show off how cool and superior their GMPC is to the actual PCs. You can swear blind that that's not your intention, and hey, maybe it isn't, but the fact remains, it is absolutely how most GMPCs actually turn out - certainly those on the same power level as the PCs or higher. As such "Masturbatory Stance" would me to see more appropriate than "Benevolent Stance" here. The only person a GMPC is ever really helping is the GM, and more specifically his ego. I am only semi-joking lol. It really is not "benevolent" to try and make yourself the hero. As for not using GMPCs, okay but what are you talking about exactly? All DMs will sometimes have NPCs on the same side as the PCs, that's just part of being a DM. There's no stance to it. It's not possible, no. It's like organisations investigating themselves. You're not a bodhisattva or similar, so you're inevitably going to screw that balance up. You've got an inherent and completely massive conflict of interest even just as a keeper of secrets. "Enforcer of a consistent unified vision" isn't something that's necessary to a well-functioning game, it's usually something that is needed when you're essentially forcing unruly players who aren't really consenting to a specific vibe into that vibe. You literally can't play both sides during prep, what are you talking about? You're not even playing the game during prep! [/QUOTE]
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