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<blockquote data-quote="thuter" data-source="post: 8608744" data-attributes="member: 6975034"><p>It is, I tried to make it more clear by using the brackets. The calculation is a <strong>single attack</strong> with advantage, with the second attack gated behind the first crit (hence the 0.2775 multiplier), and the third attack is gated behind the second crit (hence the 0.2775 multiplier <em>within </em>the first crit bracket. Each base attack (including triggered attacks from Relentless Attack) deals 15.17 damage, assuming advantage and 50% base to hit.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Each attack is considered separately, can crit, and is adjusted for miss chance and crit chance. 15.17 expected damage is from a single attack given advantage and 50% base to hit, and this includes damage from triggering attacks from critting because of Relentless Attack. So with multi-attack, the expected damage is 30.34 (given that each attack, even the extra ones from Relentless Attack can crit and thus deal more damage).</p><p></p><p>In the 1 in 28.438 chance that all 4 base attacks and for each of those the first Relentless Attacks crit as well, you get a total of 12 attacks, each dealing 11 average damage (2d6+4), which are doubled on a crit in my calculations.</p><p></p><p></p><p>4 At-will attacks was based on the mentioned use of Cleaving Swing for each of the 2 base attacks from multi-attack. I admit to some error here, as the spawning of these secondary attacks is not based on hitting in my calculations and I ignored the fact that using this maneuver is a reaction, and can thus be taken only once per round.</p><p></p><p>So: 30.34 expected damage from the first two attacks from multi-attack.</p><p>There is a 93.75% chance of at least hitting once, enabling Cleaving Swing (given a target for it). So the added damage from the Cleaving Swing Attack is 0.9375*15.17 = 14.22</p><p></p><p>Bringing the total expected DPR to 30.34 + 14.22 = 44.56 instead. Still one-rounding CR2 creatures and even some CR3 and 4.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thuter, post: 8608744, member: 6975034"] It is, I tried to make it more clear by using the brackets. The calculation is a [B]single attack[/B] with advantage, with the second attack gated behind the first crit (hence the 0.2775 multiplier), and the third attack is gated behind the second crit (hence the 0.2775 multiplier [I]within [/I]the first crit bracket. Each base attack (including triggered attacks from Relentless Attack) deals 15.17 damage, assuming advantage and 50% base to hit. Each attack is considered separately, can crit, and is adjusted for miss chance and crit chance. 15.17 expected damage is from a single attack given advantage and 50% base to hit, and this includes damage from triggering attacks from critting because of Relentless Attack. So with multi-attack, the expected damage is 30.34 (given that each attack, even the extra ones from Relentless Attack can crit and thus deal more damage). In the 1 in 28.438 chance that all 4 base attacks and for each of those the first Relentless Attacks crit as well, you get a total of 12 attacks, each dealing 11 average damage (2d6+4), which are doubled on a crit in my calculations. 4 At-will attacks was based on the mentioned use of Cleaving Swing for each of the 2 base attacks from multi-attack. I admit to some error here, as the spawning of these secondary attacks is not based on hitting in my calculations and I ignored the fact that using this maneuver is a reaction, and can thus be taken only once per round. So: 30.34 expected damage from the first two attacks from multi-attack. There is a 93.75% chance of at least hitting once, enabling Cleaving Swing (given a target for it). So the added damage from the Cleaving Swing Attack is 0.9375*15.17 = 14.22 Bringing the total expected DPR to 30.34 + 14.22 = 44.56 instead. Still one-rounding CR2 creatures and even some CR3 and 4. [/QUOTE]
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