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Berserkers vs Barbarians, who would win?
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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 5734099" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>The Berseker (assuming they run with all primal encouner/dailies so they are 'constantly' in a fury) vs. a normal barbarian is only going to come down to at-will damage, and a few class feature things. The encounter powers and dailies are basically a wash other than factoring in Rampage and bonus features. Once it gets 'down' to using at-will powers.</p><p> </p><p>Howling strike and devestating strike have the d6/d8 per tier, which matches them up to the berserker at-wills under the effect of a fury. For a berserker though, they get an effect on top of the damage, and in the case of charging, they get to use a normal MBA with d8's instead of d6's.</p><p> </p><p>This does put the berserker ahead outside of bonuses from the rampage/swift charge (or similar features). However, that requires a complete abandonement of the defender part. If they go with just a token ammount of defendering (say one or two encounter powers for the first couple of turns), you are going to lose out on about 1[W] for each of those encounter powers, and so you are looking to use vengeful guardian to make up the damage difference. One important note, your normal OAs don't deal extra damage while you are a defender, so an enemy might get wise and just walk away instead of shifting ... but those OAs would still be counting towards your catch up DPR since that enemy would likely be able to avoid an OA coming from the rage-barian.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 5734099, member: 63763"] The Berseker (assuming they run with all primal encouner/dailies so they are 'constantly' in a fury) vs. a normal barbarian is only going to come down to at-will damage, and a few class feature things. The encounter powers and dailies are basically a wash other than factoring in Rampage and bonus features. Once it gets 'down' to using at-will powers. Howling strike and devestating strike have the d6/d8 per tier, which matches them up to the berserker at-wills under the effect of a fury. For a berserker though, they get an effect on top of the damage, and in the case of charging, they get to use a normal MBA with d8's instead of d6's. This does put the berserker ahead outside of bonuses from the rampage/swift charge (or similar features). However, that requires a complete abandonement of the defender part. If they go with just a token ammount of defendering (say one or two encounter powers for the first couple of turns), you are going to lose out on about 1[W] for each of those encounter powers, and so you are looking to use vengeful guardian to make up the damage difference. One important note, your normal OAs don't deal extra damage while you are a defender, so an enemy might get wise and just walk away instead of shifting ... but those OAs would still be counting towards your catch up DPR since that enemy would likely be able to avoid an OA coming from the rage-barian. [/QUOTE]
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