BESM D20: Stingy vs Revised

[Sado]

Can anyone tell me what's in the Revised Edition that's not in the Stingy Gamer edition? Is it worth the extra $20?

 

[sinmissing]

I believe the answer is graphics.

d20 BeSM Stingy Edition is exactly that, the cheapest publication of d20 BeSM.

 

[Pagan priest]

I don't know if it has been corrected yet, but there was a printing error in the BESM D20 Revised book that ended up leaving most of the unrevised material in there. GoO has been unbelievably great in dealing with this error, and had offered to buy back the misprinted books... and when have you ever heard of a gaming co. doing that?

For more details, and more up to date info, I'd say go to the GoO web site.

 

[Ranger REG]

Can anyone tell me what's in the Revised Edition that's not in the Stingy Gamer edition? Is it worth the extra $20?

If you mean the Revised BESM d20 and the BESM d20: Stingy Gamer Edition (compatible with 3.5e rules) ... it would be 3.5e material.



As someone stated earlier, there was a printing error. Someone from GOO sent the printer the WRONG layout. By the time they discover the the mistake, it was already too late. Now, GOO have to eat up the printing expense, and will try again.

At least the Revised(?) BESM d20 have the d20 Mecha rules included as planned.

 

[whisper_jeff]

I don't know if it has been corrected yet, but there was a printing error in the BESM D20 Revised book that ended up leaving most of the unrevised material in there. GoO has been unbelievably great in dealing with this error, and had offered to buy back the misprinted books... and when have you ever heard of a gaming co. doing that?

For more details, and more up to date info, I'd say go to the GoO web site.

We've put up pdfs of the affected pages for those that want that information. Further details about the incorrect printing can be found at http://www.iguardians.net/boards/showthread.php?t=2489

We are in the process of sending corrected files to the printer right now to replace the incorrect printing. We hope, assuming no major delays, to have the new, corrected printing in storesin about a month and a half. more detailed release information, however, can always be found in our iCal updates ( http://www.guardiansorder.com/ical/ ).

And, as to the original post, the main differences between revised and stingy are that revised has additional errata (very minor typos and minor rules things), a 16 page section of new, optional rules (nothing that is required - rules that can enhance your game, if you wanted to use them), and the mecha creation rules from d20 Mecha. Stingy, on the flip side, has no art, a very tight layout, and a very low price tag - $10. Do I think that the revised edition is worth the extra $20? Yes. Sure, I work for the company so you'd expect me to say that, but I do think it is worth the extra money. Heck, d20 Mecha is $20 so consider it paying $20 extra for d20 Mecha and getting a hardcover and artwork/better layout for free. Seriously, I would buy the revised edition, if I was buying the rules set. If, however, you just want the rules, don't care about mecha, and don't mine a tighter layout, then it's hard to argue with $10...

 

[Ranger REG]

And, as to the original post, the main differences between revised and stingy are that revised has additional errata (very minor typos and minor rules things), a 16 page section of new, optional rules (nothing that is required - rules that can enhance your game, if you wanted to use them), and the mecha creation rules from d20 Mecha. Stingy, on the flip side, has no art, a very tight layout, and a very low price tag - $10. Do I think that the revised edition is worth the extra $20? Yes. Sure, I work for the company so you'd expect me to say that, but I do think it is worth the extra money. Heck, d20 Mecha is $20 so consider it paying $20 extra for d20 Mecha and getting a hardcover and artwork/better layout for free. Seriously, I would buy the revised edition, if I was buying the rules set. If, however, you just want the rules, don't care about mecha, and don't mine a tighter layout, then it's hard to argue with $10...

I dunno, whisper_jeff. I like d20 Mecha ruleset as a separate entity to be used in any d20/OGL games, not just BESM d20. But I'm guessing that your company decided NOT to release a corrected printing of d20 Mecha Handbook anytime soon. That would be unfeasible.

But I'll check out the corrected Revised BESM d20 as soon as it hit the store shelves.

 

[Stormfalcon]

Add me to those who are awaiting the revised revised edition. I bought the faulty revised one, but opted not to return it or ship it back just yet, at least not until there's word of an exchange program. I don't want my money back, I just want a fixed version of the book.