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<blockquote data-quote="Najo" data-source="post: 903571" data-attributes="member: 9959"><p><strong>Support the Game Industry</strong></p><p></p><p>A free economy is not just about the lowest price, it is about choice. Where you purchase from is what you choose to support. But gaming is caught in an akward position, because ultimately if it ends up in the mass market, it loses its complexity and depth of play. Gaming also needs a real face-to-face community to survive, and though some of you just play with your immediate friends, not all gamers have current groups. FLGS does give people a way to find new groups, come together to discuss their hobby with new people and see a showcase of products put together by a fellow hobbyist. </p><p></p><p>There is no way something that takes as much time and energy as role playing, or miniature gaming or CCGS will ever have as large of a market as video games. So this means that these companies ultimately rely on the niche outlets and smaller publishers to give us the variety of products that this industry offers. </p><p></p><p>Probelm is that when a mainline product such as the core rule books of D&D goes mainstream, you are taking a key money earner from those niche markets. Those three products are the only things that a D&D player NEEDS. So all other releases are optional. </p><p></p><p>Two things occur from buying through places like Walmart: </p><p></p><p>1) you send the message that you feel the D&D books are overpriced (which they aren't this is a rant of many manufactures who feel that rpgs are finally coming into the prices they should be at for the work they take to create) </p><p></p><p>2) you may send the message to WOTC that you'll buy through the mass chain stores, but then that just makes WOTC's demograhics flawed as hobby sales drop and mass market increase. If hobby stores and distributors die from lack of WOTC sales, then most of the 3rd party publiushers, miniature copmpanies, dice companies, card supplies etc are in trouble as well. It could put them out of business too. </p><p></p><p>I personally want to support the gaming industry at all levels, Wal Mart doesn't serve the gaming industries interests except for prices that are to low IMHO. When D&D is just a simplifed boxed dungeon crawling adventure game on a mass market shelf or only an MMORPG and game stores are dead and gone, it is because you choose price over supporting the places that really care about the hobby. </p><p></p><p>Some one said something about Hasbro being the best thing that happened to D&D. The truth was Peter Adkinsen and Ryan Dancy (both long term gamers) created the current business model. When WOTC was sold to Hasbro, it became purely about sales and profit, and not the love for the hobby that WOTC was started from or D&D was saved with. </p><p></p><p>Just something to think about <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Najo, post: 903571, member: 9959"] [b]Support the Game Industry[/b] A free economy is not just about the lowest price, it is about choice. Where you purchase from is what you choose to support. But gaming is caught in an akward position, because ultimately if it ends up in the mass market, it loses its complexity and depth of play. Gaming also needs a real face-to-face community to survive, and though some of you just play with your immediate friends, not all gamers have current groups. FLGS does give people a way to find new groups, come together to discuss their hobby with new people and see a showcase of products put together by a fellow hobbyist. There is no way something that takes as much time and energy as role playing, or miniature gaming or CCGS will ever have as large of a market as video games. So this means that these companies ultimately rely on the niche outlets and smaller publishers to give us the variety of products that this industry offers. Probelm is that when a mainline product such as the core rule books of D&D goes mainstream, you are taking a key money earner from those niche markets. Those three products are the only things that a D&D player NEEDS. So all other releases are optional. Two things occur from buying through places like Walmart: 1) you send the message that you feel the D&D books are overpriced (which they aren't this is a rant of many manufactures who feel that rpgs are finally coming into the prices they should be at for the work they take to create) 2) you may send the message to WOTC that you'll buy through the mass chain stores, but then that just makes WOTC's demograhics flawed as hobby sales drop and mass market increase. If hobby stores and distributors die from lack of WOTC sales, then most of the 3rd party publiushers, miniature copmpanies, dice companies, card supplies etc are in trouble as well. It could put them out of business too. I personally want to support the gaming industry at all levels, Wal Mart doesn't serve the gaming industries interests except for prices that are to low IMHO. When D&D is just a simplifed boxed dungeon crawling adventure game on a mass market shelf or only an MMORPG and game stores are dead and gone, it is because you choose price over supporting the places that really care about the hobby. Some one said something about Hasbro being the best thing that happened to D&D. The truth was Peter Adkinsen and Ryan Dancy (both long term gamers) created the current business model. When WOTC was sold to Hasbro, it became purely about sales and profit, and not the love for the hobby that WOTC was started from or D&D was saved with. Just something to think about :) [/QUOTE]
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