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<blockquote data-quote="Ripzerai" data-source="post: 3230461" data-attributes="member: 38324"><p>That's a rather extreme assumption. I didn't intend to imply that <em>nothing</em> should be completely alien. But neither does everything from the inner planes have to be a completely alien, incomprehensible enigma. Anthropomorphic glimmerskins interest me. Anthropmorphic xag-ya do not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Very true. But <em>being</em> something and fully understanding what you are are two different things. <em>Know thyself</em> isn't a simple proposition.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fire learned what it was when it first encountered ash.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. It's like a cubic centimeter of steel buried inside three square miles of steel not knowing what metal is.</p><p></p><p>That's a pretty good analogy of a fire elemental's situation, but it doesn't come close to the existence of a glimmerskin. A glimmerskin is like the cubic centimeter of steel not having a unique identity. It's like a drop of water in an ocean of water.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm just throwing ideas out there. If you don't like the idea, I can accept that and won't try to sell it to you. Your analogies are poor, though. A sailor experiences all sorts of elements. Sailors don't live in elemental planes, and they certainly don't live on a plane as bleak and monotonous as the Positive Energy Plane.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Singularities aren't abhorrent to me, so I don't know why it seems that way to you. I endorsed one particular duality; that doesn't imply a hatred of non-duality. </p><p></p><p>But it was my intention to be helpful, not to start a flame war.</p><p></p><p>A fire elemental who confronted water would not cease to be an elemental. That seems a strange idea.</p><p></p><p>I think your concern about the word "parasite" is unfounded. As described in the MMII, they're symbionts, returning a benefit in exchange for their enjoyment of the flesh. The point is that positive energy need not be entirely beneficial. Whether they are additive or subtractive is not important.</p><p></p><p>Good is not associated with the Positive Energy Plane in any fashion. The plane has no alignment traits, and all of its native inhabitants are neutral. Good deities prefer to heal than to harm, and good deities prefer to rid the world of soul-sucking horrors. But the energy they use is only a tool. It is part of nature, just as negative energy is. Both forms of energy are vital for the cycle of nature to continue. Both types of energy can be harmful or beneficial, depending on the situation. Neither type of energy is safe if you're exposed to too much of it.</p><p></p><p>I have had no problems explaining this in the past.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ripzerai, post: 3230461, member: 38324"] That's a rather extreme assumption. I didn't intend to imply that [i]nothing[/i] should be completely alien. But neither does everything from the inner planes have to be a completely alien, incomprehensible enigma. Anthropomorphic glimmerskins interest me. Anthropmorphic xag-ya do not. Very true. But [i]being[/i] something and fully understanding what you are are two different things. [i]Know thyself[/i] isn't a simple proposition. Fire learned what it was when it first encountered ash. No. It's like a cubic centimeter of steel buried inside three square miles of steel not knowing what metal is. That's a pretty good analogy of a fire elemental's situation, but it doesn't come close to the existence of a glimmerskin. A glimmerskin is like the cubic centimeter of steel not having a unique identity. It's like a drop of water in an ocean of water. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm just throwing ideas out there. If you don't like the idea, I can accept that and won't try to sell it to you. Your analogies are poor, though. A sailor experiences all sorts of elements. Sailors don't live in elemental planes, and they certainly don't live on a plane as bleak and monotonous as the Positive Energy Plane. Singularities aren't abhorrent to me, so I don't know why it seems that way to you. I endorsed one particular duality; that doesn't imply a hatred of non-duality. But it was my intention to be helpful, not to start a flame war. A fire elemental who confronted water would not cease to be an elemental. That seems a strange idea. I think your concern about the word "parasite" is unfounded. As described in the MMII, they're symbionts, returning a benefit in exchange for their enjoyment of the flesh. The point is that positive energy need not be entirely beneficial. Whether they are additive or subtractive is not important. Good is not associated with the Positive Energy Plane in any fashion. The plane has no alignment traits, and all of its native inhabitants are neutral. Good deities prefer to heal than to harm, and good deities prefer to rid the world of soul-sucking horrors. But the energy they use is only a tool. It is part of nature, just as negative energy is. Both forms of energy are vital for the cycle of nature to continue. Both types of energy can be harmful or beneficial, depending on the situation. Neither type of energy is safe if you're exposed to too much of it. I have had no problems explaining this in the past. [/QUOTE]
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