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<blockquote data-quote="aboyd" data-source="post: 4764578" data-attributes="member: 44797">Well, I believe strongly in the &quot;never give up caster levels&quot; idea, so I would never use a race that had a +3 or more level adjustment.&nbsp; It's just too much delay in gaining levels.&nbsp; But I'm thinking about some +1 or +2 races.&nbsp; Also, I rarely play beyond level 14 or 15, so I don't really care if the level adjusted race starts to seem like a poor trade at very high levels.I also have a very hard time wrapping my brain around stat trades that are net-negative.&nbsp; In other words, +2 to str, -2 dex, -2 wis.&nbsp; That's not worth it to me at all, unless there is a whopper of a different kind of bonus (a host of free spells or multiple extra feats or... you get the idea).Other than that, no real preferences.&nbsp; I think I'd like to make an enemy using a LA race, and throw it at my players (7 are level 4, 1 is level 3).&nbsp; But I'm also curious about something that is a dead-obvious good race to play for a campaign that I'm a player in.&nbsp; I have no pre-set class for that campaign, so I might be able to go with something that just seems really well done, regardless of class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aboyd, post: 4764578, member: 44797"] Well, I believe strongly in the "never give up caster levels" idea, so I would never use a race that had a +3 or more level adjustment. It's just too much delay in gaining levels. But I'm thinking about some +1 or +2 races. Also, I rarely play beyond level 14 or 15, so I don't really care if the level adjusted race starts to seem like a poor trade at very high levels. I also have a very hard time wrapping my brain around stat trades that are net-negative. In other words, +2 to str, -2 dex, -2 wis. That's not worth it to me at all, unless there is a whopper of a different kind of bonus (a host of free spells or multiple extra feats or... you get the idea). Other than that, no real preferences. I think I'd like to make an enemy using a LA race, and throw it at my players (7 are level 4, 1 is level 3). But I'm also curious about something that is a dead-obvious good race to play for a campaign that I'm a player in. I have no pre-set class for that campaign, so I might be able to go with something that just seems really well done, regardless of class. [/QUOTE]

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