Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="W'rkncacnter" data-source="post: 8940026" data-attributes="member: 7033455">well, a first level o5e fighter gets:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">a fighting style</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">second wind (recover hp as a bonus action once per short rest)</li>
</ul>whereas a first level a5e fighter gets:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">a fighting style</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">proficiency in 2 maneuver traditions<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">3 combat maneuvers from those traditions</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">an exertion pool of 4 (from 2*prof bonus) to spend on using those maneuvers</li>
</ul></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">a soldiering knack</li>
</ul>so yeah i'd argue a first level a5e fighter is more complex then a first level o5e fighter. as for the main question, it might be a good idea (if you're starting at first level, as you should be with new players) to give a new player an adept, berserker, or rogue. they don't get maneuvers until second level, and don't have anything too weird going on with their first level class features like the marshal does. of course, they get maneuvers at second level, but by then they should be comfortable enough to be able to handle the extra complexity that brings.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="W'rkncacnter, post: 8940026, member: 7033455"] well, a first level o5e fighter gets: [LIST] [*]a fighting style [*]second wind (recover hp as a bonus action once per short rest) [/LIST] whereas a first level a5e fighter gets: [LIST] [*]a fighting style [*]proficiency in 2 maneuver traditions [LIST] [*]3 combat maneuvers from those traditions [*]an exertion pool of 4 (from 2*prof bonus) to spend on using those maneuvers [/LIST] [*]a soldiering knack [/LIST] so yeah i'd argue a first level a5e fighter is more complex then a first level o5e fighter. as for the main question, it might be a good idea (if you're starting at first level, as you should be with new players) to give a new player an adept, berserker, or rogue. they don't get maneuvers until second level, and don't have anything too weird going on with their first level class features like the marshal does. of course, they get maneuvers at second level, but by then they should be comfortable enough to be able to handle the extra complexity that brings. [/QUOTE]

Verification