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<blockquote data-quote="Wizard Biscuits" data-source="post: 5349031" data-attributes="member: 77502">Ok, so here's the set-up. I'm an experienced DM and I've been eyeing up 4th Ed for a while now; the tipping point was getting the Dark Sun handbook since I've always been a fan of the setting. So now I've a groovy setting but a lack of rules for it (and I can't be arsed to convert it all to Pathfinder anyway). I was intruiged by the Essentials line, but after reading what's contained in them I'm not so sure anymore. &nbsp;Basically, my question is this. I want to know what are the best books to get (and preferably the most cost efficient)?&nbsp;For example, it seems the first Players Handbook is a better choice than Rules Compendium. And I doubt I need the first Dungeon Masters Guide as I've enough books telling me how to be a good DM, or is there some crunch in it worth picking it up for? However, in regard to skill challenges, is it worth picking up the 2nd DM's Guide or instead the upcoming Essentials DM's Kit?&nbsp;I hope this makes sense to someone and I'd greatly appreciate any help. I basically just want to know the minimum amount of books to get some adventures running in Athas.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wizard Biscuits, post: 5349031, member: 77502"] Ok, so here's the set-up. I'm an experienced DM and I've been eyeing up 4th Ed for a while now; the tipping point was getting the Dark Sun handbook since I've always been a fan of the setting. So now I've a groovy setting but a lack of rules for it (and I can't be arsed to convert it all to Pathfinder anyway). I was intruiged by the Essentials line, but after reading what's contained in them I'm not so sure anymore. Basically, my question is this. I want to know what are the best books to get (and preferably the most cost efficient)? For example, it seems the first Players Handbook is a better choice than Rules Compendium. And I doubt I need the first Dungeon Masters Guide as I've enough books telling me how to be a good DM, or is there some crunch in it worth picking it up for? However, in regard to skill challenges, is it worth picking up the 2nd DM's Guide or instead the upcoming Essentials DM's Kit? I hope this makes sense to someone and I'd greatly appreciate any help. I basically just want to know the minimum amount of books to get some adventures running in Athas. [/QUOTE]

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