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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5349583" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Really, they are casual players, I'd just get the DMK, HotFL, RC, and the DS setting books. That will give you the basics you need. Yeah, you don't have the PHB3 Psionics rules, but you have 4 good solid classes and the DS themes and whatnot to add to that. It will certainly be enough to get going with and 'get going' could well mean playing 1-30, which is going to be a couple YEARS of play. If a player really wants to play something from the earlier PHBs etc then either he can just pull the options out of CB or buy a copy of that book.</p><p></p><p>There are going to be a few things you don't have, like any rituals, but again you can pull those out of the online Compendium or CB, which both have all the relevant rules text. I don't think RC actually has the general rules for Rituals, but there is really nothing much to know in general, you buy it, you can cast it, you pay the cost, you gotta have the Ritual Caster feat to learn rituals, that's about it at a basic level. There is very little else that you need to know. CB can pretty much handle anything you need to know about psionics too, which again isn't a whole lot, they're just powers with the augmentable keyword, which is in the RC. </p><p></p><p>Once you get going you can always pick up other books. The DS monster book should give you enough monsters, but again DDI has all the other ones in the Compendium (and Monster Builder, an excellent tool). Maybe you will eventually want the MM1/2/3 series just for more variety or whatever, but you can ALWAYS pick that stuff up later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5349583, member: 82106"] Really, they are casual players, I'd just get the DMK, HotFL, RC, and the DS setting books. That will give you the basics you need. Yeah, you don't have the PHB3 Psionics rules, but you have 4 good solid classes and the DS themes and whatnot to add to that. It will certainly be enough to get going with and 'get going' could well mean playing 1-30, which is going to be a couple YEARS of play. If a player really wants to play something from the earlier PHBs etc then either he can just pull the options out of CB or buy a copy of that book. There are going to be a few things you don't have, like any rituals, but again you can pull those out of the online Compendium or CB, which both have all the relevant rules text. I don't think RC actually has the general rules for Rituals, but there is really nothing much to know in general, you buy it, you can cast it, you pay the cost, you gotta have the Ritual Caster feat to learn rituals, that's about it at a basic level. There is very little else that you need to know. CB can pretty much handle anything you need to know about psionics too, which again isn't a whole lot, they're just powers with the augmentable keyword, which is in the RC. Once you get going you can always pick up other books. The DS monster book should give you enough monsters, but again DDI has all the other ones in the Compendium (and Monster Builder, an excellent tool). Maybe you will eventually want the MM1/2/3 series just for more variety or whatever, but you can ALWAYS pick that stuff up later. [/QUOTE]
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