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<blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 6882214" data-attributes="member: 12377"><p>There's a third option: just tell her that this rule is annoying you so much that you're going to scrap your character and start over and see what she says. It really sounds to me like your DM is being adversarial or saying "No" too much (I've played with DMs like that; any idea a PC comes up with, the DM reflexively says they can't do it or it's too hard or something). But of course I don't really know your DM and am only guessing based on what I read here.</p><p></p><p>Like instead of rules-lawyering and saying "Well the rules say I can use Arcana!" you can ask nicely and say, "Hey this constant need for <em>detect magic</em> is really annoying and pretty much ruining my character concept, can I make an Arcana check instead?"</p><p></p><p>Maybe you could keep your Arcane Trickster and seek out scrolls of <em>detect magic</em>? (You can cast it off the scroll as it's a wizard spell and you have access to the entire wizard spell list; the Sage has ruled on this multiple times.) Or go on a quest to find a magic item that detects magic? Maybe a pair of glasses that lets you cast <em>detect magic</em> as a bonus action 3/day or something.</p><p></p><p>I'm saying this because I'd answer your initial question, "Which class is the best infiltrator?" with Arcane Trickster Rogue. I think Assassin Rogue, Lore Bard, or Warlock could also work. Of those, only Lore Bard is going to have a better chance against magical traps, and they can get decent disguise/stealth spells too, plus Expertise. So if you don't want to reroll Arcane Trickster and just want to min-max your way through, go Lore Bard. Valor Bard should also work reasonably well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="77IM, post: 6882214, member: 12377"] There's a third option: just tell her that this rule is annoying you so much that you're going to scrap your character and start over and see what she says. It really sounds to me like your DM is being adversarial or saying "No" too much (I've played with DMs like that; any idea a PC comes up with, the DM reflexively says they can't do it or it's too hard or something). But of course I don't really know your DM and am only guessing based on what I read here. Like instead of rules-lawyering and saying "Well the rules say I can use Arcana!" you can ask nicely and say, "Hey this constant need for [I]detect magic[/I] is really annoying and pretty much ruining my character concept, can I make an Arcana check instead?" Maybe you could keep your Arcane Trickster and seek out scrolls of [I]detect magic[/I]? (You can cast it off the scroll as it's a wizard spell and you have access to the entire wizard spell list; the Sage has ruled on this multiple times.) Or go on a quest to find a magic item that detects magic? Maybe a pair of glasses that lets you cast [I]detect magic[/I] as a bonus action 3/day or something. I'm saying this because I'd answer your initial question, "Which class is the best infiltrator?" with Arcane Trickster Rogue. I think Assassin Rogue, Lore Bard, or Warlock could also work. Of those, only Lore Bard is going to have a better chance against magical traps, and they can get decent disguise/stealth spells too, plus Expertise. So if you don't want to reroll Arcane Trickster and just want to min-max your way through, go Lore Bard. Valor Bard should also work reasonably well. [/QUOTE]
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