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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bront" data-source="post: 2515885" data-attributes="member: 19696">I've never had a problem with new players, and prefer to create a character with them.  I try to stear them away from playing a caster class, but find that including them in the creation process that they learn a bit of the game, and how things work, from seeing that in action.  Now, I'll make recomendations, but ultimately it's the player's character, and they need to feel they had control in it.However, I find I have to do that with many of my more veterine players as well, as they know the general mechanics, but they don't realy know how to create a character, or how to do it effectively.  Given that I'm usually not a GM, but good with the rules, this ends up falling to me, but I know I'm not the only person they game with.</blockquote>